Breaking News: Shoaib and Asif BANNED

[Captain1]

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^ is that Shabbir Ahmed knocking on the door again? should we tell him "aagay jaao Allah de gaa"? :D

[Rock_Express]

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@Afridi786

Shoaib's career done...finally...he was only useful for one series a year anyway. Asif is done as well, so we will have powerful attack of Umar Gul, Rana, and Rao "Waqar Younis" Iftikhar.

How can you forget Mohammed Sami?

[Rock_Express]

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@nstar777

Join Tableeghi jamaat, good for the heart and soul

Yes that's a possibility - however I doubt very much that he will consider that.

[Rock_Express]

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@desidudecool

i feel bad for Asif he seems like a nice guy, but i dont feel bad for shoaib akhtar hes always been an a$$....when he was younger he used to curse at anyone who asked for his autograph,he was extremely ill tempered, a complete jerk who had no respect for people around him and thought too much of himself.and just like afridi he sometimes did'nt take resposibility for the team.The night before the game against india in the world cup in 2003 he got drunk and stayed up all night and then went for plenty of runs against india.Shoaib Akhtar is bad and sometimes bad things do happen to bad people in this world.

Definetely Shoaib has an attitude problem. My mate was telling me how drunk he was on Broad Street, Birmingham and tried to hire his taxi. Since he was so drunk he didn't want to take him and Shoiab screaming 'you don't know who I am?' Finally, my mate told him to f*** off.

Also, I had opprtunity to meet him once at his mates house and didn't like him because of his arrogance and had opprtunities to meet him so many other times on his private visits that I didn't bother.

I suppose you all may be curious to know which place he visits on his private trips. He visits Cardiff a lot and has family friends (neighbours from his native village near Pindi) who live there and this is where I had met him before.

[Orpheus]

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Is there any chance the sentences may be reduced? ...it's happened before.

[5Abi]

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end of shoaib actors career in cricket, he should try bollywood now

[AQ]

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Dekhaa jo Teer khaa kaY KameeN Gaah kee taraf
ApnaY hee dostoN saY Mulaaqaat ho gayee

Why is that whenever Pakistanies are in Administration of any organization, they come up with the most pathetic way of running it?

PCB kee honesty sirf issi cheez kaY liye yaad aa gayee thee Typical Pakistani mentality

[brahmachari99]

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I just lost all interest in cricket. Our World Cup chances are well and truly gone. It's good that I didn't buy any World Cup tickets.

[Dr.LuLworth]

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@Captain1

^ is that Shabbir Ahmed knocking on the door again? should we tell him "aagay jaao Allah de gaa"? :D

yea. His suspension is over in first week of december. Once he gets approval again, he can play in the World Cup. I can see him and Asif in tandem in the near future. I've been a fan from the start, and don't doubt his comeback.

[Uncle_Stalker]

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i dont know whether to laugh or cry
Well..

[akhan64]

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iam not sure thats the right decesion made by PCB. just imagine these players who are the product of a society which is corrupt, immmoral and has lost its values .where in Pakistan you find justice . there is no law that pravails in the country.judges are easily bought. ministers are all corrupt. even the PCB chief is not an elected person. so why should we apply law to only two people in the whole country.at least they have contributed some to this nation. iam not saying that we should have covered there crime, but they commited this crime unknowingly and lack of knowledge about the drugs. they should have been pardoned and allowed to continue play.

[fkhan2]

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A very sad day for Pakistan cricket. Probably a fair decision by the tribunal, but at the same time can’t rule out the possibility of international pressure (ICC/WADA) which may have influenced the decision.

Additionally I agree with people, who are claiming it to be a harsh decision.One can argue that how come Shane Warne got away with a ban of 1 year and Shoaib Akhtar got 2 year ban, specially when the Tribunal clearly criticized PCB current policy of educating/advising/guiding their players about prohibited drugs and antidoping regulations. I am sure Australian Cricket Board must have a better way of communicating with their players regarding this issue, at the same time their players have a better command of English:rolleyes:

I fail to understand that why these two have been handed harsh punishment after reading this,

We are not entirely satisfied with the manner in which PCB has advised and cautioned its players with regard to prohibited substances, the adverse effects of their use and the Anti Doping Regulations. We have found much “passing of the buck” between the various PCB officials who have appeared before us. We are firmly of the view that PCB needs to have a qualified and experienced sports doctor whenever the team is on tour abroad. We are also of the view that periodic guidance should be provided to the players about their diet, nutritional supplements, prohibited substances and the Anti Doping Regulations and there should be clear cut responsibility as to who is to perform these various tasks and when.

After reading the full text of the decison by Anti Doping Tribunal, specially their explanation of why Asif’ case was dealt in a lenient manner, I personally think that they could have given a 1 year punishment to Shoaib Akhtar and 6 months to Asif. I have a strong feeling that the harsh nature of this decision is because of international pressure.

[coOoLBreeze]

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Anti-Doping Commission announces decision

http://content-pak.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/266575.html

A few very interesting comments, a must read :D. By by Shoaib Akhter, probably for good.

[coOoLBreeze]

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@fkhan2

A very sad day for Pakistan cricket. Probably a fair decision by the tribunal, but at the same time can’t rule out the possibility of international pressure (ICC/WADA) which may have influenced the decision.

Additionally I agree with people, who are claiming it to be a harsh decision.One can argue that how come Shane Warne got away with a ban of 1 year and Shoaib Akhtar got 2 year ban, specially when the Tribunal clearly criticized PCB current policy of educating/advising/guiding their players about prohibited drugs and antidoping regulations. I am sure Australian Cricket Board must have a better way of communicating with their players regarding this issue, at the same time their players have a better command of English:rolleyes:

I fail to understand that why these two have been handed harsh punishment after reading this,

After reading the full text of the decison by Anti Doping Tribunal, specially their explanation of why Asif’ case was dealt in a lenient manner, I personally think that they could have given a 1 year punishment to Shoaib Akhtar and 6 months to Asif. I have a strong feeling that the harsh nature of this decision is because of international pressure.

Did you read the Shoaib replies and his general comments. He was acting a god of himself in medicine, and I am utterly sure that he would have been some what stubborn with his attitude. Asif on the other hand is an idiot. Got himself into trouble cause of just ignorance.

[fkhan2]

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@coOoLBreeze

Did you read the Shoaib replies and his general comments. He was acting a god of himself in medicine, and I am utterly sure that he would have been some what stubborn with his attitude. Asif on the other hand is an idiot. Got himself into trouble cause of just ignorance.

Are you are talking about the statement he presented in front of the tribunal?
The statement simply listed his medical conditions plus some treatment regimes, and it was most likely prepared by his personal doctor.
Regardless of his attitude*, *I was talking about the harshness of the decision when you compare it with Shane Warne. Read carefully what I worte.

[Rock_Express]

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Doctor says fast bowler will contest ban

Shoaib might appeal
Cricinfo staff

November 2, 2006

Shoaib Akhtar is likely to appeal against the ban handed to him by the Pakistan board-appointed drug tribunal, sources close to the bowler confirmed to Cricinfo.

Shoaib was sentenced to a two-year ban from cricket after he and Mohammad Asif - banned for a year - tested positive for nandrolone, a muscle-building steroid banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

Tauseef Razzaq, Shoaib’s doctor, also said that Shoaib was devastated by the decision and would definitely appeal against the ban. “There are a number of examples where athletes were given the benefit of the doubt for using substances unknowingly and there are studies by renowned universities of the world on whose basis Akhtar should have been cleared,” Razzaq told AFP, referring to Shoaib’s claim last month that he had not knowingly taken any performance-enhancing drugs.

Neither Shoaib nor Asif has issued any public statement regarding their decision to appeal. There are indications that Shoaib will hold a press conference later on the issue, though these have yet to be confirmed.

© Cricinfo

Source: http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/266639.html

[system]

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[quote=fkhan2]
I fail to understand that why these two have been handed harsh punishment after reading this,

After reading the full text of the decison by Anti Doping Tribunal, specially their explanation of why Asif' case was dealt in a lenient manner, I personally think that they could have given a 1 year punishment to Shoaib Akhtar and 6 months to Asif. I have a strong feeling that the harsh nature of this decision is because of international pressure./quote]

Fkhan,
Totally agreed, compare Shoaib's 2 yrs with all other doping punishments in the past (including Warne), none were given more than 18months which begs the question why 2yrs for shoaib? Is Pcb setting its own standards or is this a case of old vendetta's? whatever the reasoning, 2yrs was harsh one was reasonable.

[Rock_Express]

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Doctor says fast bowler will contest ban

Sad but we had to make an example of Shoaib - Alam

Cricinfo staff

November 2, 2006

Intikhab Alam, one of the three-member panel that recommended the ban on Shoaib Akthar and Mohammad Asif, said he was sad but had no regrets about the decision.

“We didn’t have any doubts in our minds about what we have announced,” Intikhab, the former Pakistan captain, told Bigstarcricket. “They were not able to convince us of their innocence. It was crystal clear. They admitted themselves that they had been taking dietary supplements. They are both adults and players have to be responsible for their own actions. Sometimes you have to take these decisions. We have done a good job.”

Intikhab was certain that the tough, albeit sad, decision had to be taken as it would set an example for the young cricketers of the future. "It’s sad that it happened but now the youngsters coming up will be very, very careful. We had to set an example.

“If the players just got their strength from good old-fashioned fitness work and didn’t abuse their bodies with these supplements, they would still be playing.”

Intikhab also said he didn’t know why the two players declined the chance to give a second B test and suggested the only reason could have been that their retest would also have been positive.

Intikhab rubbished speculations that the panel was unfairly harsher on Akhtar than Asif. “If people read our statement they will understand,” Intikhab asserted. "He [Shoaib] drinks alcohol, has an active sex life and he’s been part of anti-doping awareness programmes. Shoaib has been around for the last ten years and the written statement that his spokesman gave about him taking dietary supplements and not consulting a doctor, shows he was negligent."

On Asif he said: “We decided to ban him for a year because his English is not that good, he comes from a remote village where he would not have been educated on the dangers of drugs in sport and so he doesn’t understand.”

© Cricinfo

Source: http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/266665.html

Pakistan players including Shoiab may not have told me that they drink etc…

[system]

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@Rock_Express

Doctor says fast bowler will contest ban

Sad but we had to make an example of Shoaib - Alam

Cricinfo staff

November 2, 2006

Intikhab Alam, one of the three-member panel that recommended the ban on Shoaib Akthar and Mohammad Asif, said he was sad but had no regrets about the decision.

“We didn’t have any doubts in our minds about what we have announced,” Intikhab, the former Pakistan captain, told Bigstarcricket. “They were not able to convince us of their innocence. It was crystal clear. They admitted themselves that they had been taking dietary supplements. They are both adults and players have to be responsible for their own actions. Sometimes you have to take these decisions. We have done a good job.”

Intikhab was certain that the tough, albeit sad, decision had to be taken as it would set an example for the young cricketers of the future. "It’s sad that it happened but now the youngsters coming up will be very, very careful. We had to set an example.

“If the players just got their strength from good old-fashioned fitness work and didn’t abuse their bodies with these supplements, they would still be playing.”

Intikhab also said he didn’t know why the two players declined the chance to give a second B test and suggested the only reason could have been that their retest would also have been positive.

Intikhab rubbished speculations that the panel was unfairly harsher on Akhtar than Asif. “If people read our statement they will understand,” Intikhab asserted. "He [Shoaib] drinks alcohol, has an active sex life and he’s been part of anti-doping awareness programmes. Shoaib has been around for the last ten years and the written statement that his spokesman gave about him taking dietary supplements and not consulting a doctor, shows he was negligent."

On Asif he said: “We decided to ban him for a year because his English is not that good, he comes from a remote village where he would not have been educated on the dangers of drugs in sport and so he doesn’t understand.”

© Cricinfo

Source: http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/266665.html

Pakistan players including Shoiab may not have told me that they drink etc…

Shoaib Akhter had to be made an example…thats the bottm-line. Shane Warne belongs to a much more developed sporting fraternity yet was awarded a one year ban, thus this theory of knowing and not knowing is rubbish. Truth of the matter is Mr Akhter has made far too many enemies in his short and much interrupted career and his non-conventional hobbies make him an easy target.

Mr. Intikhab Alam calims they (tribunal) have done a good job? Having failed as a cricketer this is probably the only way he can claim success…moron.

[system]

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\11\02\story_2-11-2006_pg2_3
Thursday, November 02, 2006

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Cricketers banned for drugs
Here is a complete list of cricketers banned for failed dope tests:

**1996: **Ed Giddins of English county Sussex is banned for 18 months after testing positive for cocaine.

**2001: **Western Australia’s fast bowler Duncan Spencer is suspended for 18 months after testing positive for nandrolone.

**2003: **Graeme Rummans, playing for the Australian state Victoria, is banned for one month and fined after testing positive for the masking agent probenecid.

**2003: **Australia’s legendary leg-spinner Shane Warne is banned for one year after testing positive for a diuretic.

2006: Pakistan’s Shoaib Akhtar banned for two years, and teammate Mohammad Asif for one year after testing positive for nandrolone. afp

Mr Aloo Alam, can u make any sense out of this???](“http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=20061%href%2\story_2-11-2006_pg2_3”)