Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
So where is moin to tell us now that Kiyani is a real gora Punjabi who looks Greek or Turkish?
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Long as he is in the saddle, he controls our destiny. Why mess with God’s most favorite vicegerent on this planet? So what if he smokes? He is clean, intelligent and POWERFUL. He’s never spoken a lie, defrauded anyone or in **general **(oink oink)made a boo boo.
I say join the bandwagon now and reserve choice posts. Wait and rue missed chances later. Took a good 8 years for the new King to emerge. Wonder when royal sword changes hand next time. Aesi oppurtinites roz roz nahi atee.
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Khehkashan: fortunately we have been saved by such statements, thank to admin team here :D
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
well according to this bbc article, hes seems like he deserved it and looks good.
The rise of Pakistan's 'quiet man'
By Syed Shoaib Hasan
BBC News, Islamabad
Lt Gen Kiani has a 'can-do' reputation
The rise of Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kiani through the ranks of the Pakistani military has been rapid if not extraordinary.
T*he man nominated by Gen Musharraf to be his replacement as army chief is noted for his patience, diligence, intelligence and sheer determination.*
Another contributing factor has been his ability to keep a low profile when necessary while also being able to take decisive action when it's needed. **
Gen Kiani's clan is one of the largest and most powerful in the northern Jhelum area of Pakistan's largest province, Punjab.
The harsh and arid region is famed throughout the subcontinent for only one product - soldiers.
**So in many ways Gen Kiani was born to the job.
Passion for golf
He initially studied at the local cadet college in Jhelum, and was subsequently accepted at the army's military academy in the northern town of Kakul.
In August 1971 he was commissioned as a second lieutenant, and joined the famed Baluch regiment.
The general is respected within the army
He joined up in time to experience the military defeat to India of the same year.
His first taste of politics came when he served as deputy military secretary to Benazir Bhutto in her first government in 1988.
Since then he has served at various levels of command.
He is a graduate of the Army staff colleges in Quetta and Islamabad, and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth in the US.
Married with two children, Gen Kiani is president of the Pakistan Golf Association and an avid golfer.
He is respected in the army as a professional soldier who deliberately keeps a low profile. **
Crisis management
This is in sharp contrast to the man he has been chosen to replace - Pervez Musharraf.
But maintaining a low profile has not meant that Gen Kiani has shied away from high-profile assignments.
*He has a "can-do" image as a man who gets things done. *
*Gen Kiani has never been seen a part of President Musharraf's inner circle. But the president has always turned to him when the going gets tough. *
**It was Gen Kiani who was responsible for the investigation into attempts to assassinate President Musharraf in December 2003.
As one of the army's senior most officers, Gen Kiani could confidently expect to take the top job
In his book, In the Line of Fire, President Musharraf writes how the investigations into the attacks initially ran into problems because of inter-agency rivalries.
"But these disappeared when I appointed Kiani in charge of investigations," the president wrote.
Observers believe that it was from this time onwards that Gen Musharraf started to rely heavily on Gen Kiani for crisis management.
But insiders say it was actually the winter of 2001-2002 that showcased Gen Kiani's abilities.
Stand-off
At that time he was serving as Director-General Military Operations (DGMO) - the army's operational commander.
As Pakistan's relations with India deteriorated, militants staged a deadly attack on the Indian parliament.
Delhi blamed it on the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Toiba, and mobilised its army to take action. Soon the two nuclear-armed neighbours were dug in opposite each other along their 1,500km border.
Gen Musharraf has come to rely on Lt Gen Kiani
Tempers were running high and a single aggressive movement could have sparked conflict. During this time, Maj Gen Ashfaq Kiani was in charge of all troop movements.
Insiders say it was his expert handling of the situation, and his constant contact with the Indian command that kept the eight-month stand-off from becoming an outright war.
It also brought him to the attention of Gen Musharraf. Subsequently, Gen Kiani was promoted to command the army's elite 10 Corps based in Rawalpindi.
When the attacks on President Musharraf took place in the city, Gen Kiani was the natural choice for the job. The investigations led to a secret military tribunal convicting 11 men of planning and carrying out the attack.
'Own man'
Soon after he was made the head of Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency. In March 2007, he was part of the infamous "tribunal" of intelligence chiefs who met Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry the day before his suspension by President Musharraf.
He was later named as the only one who sat silently through the entire episode.
Gen Kiani was also the only official at the meeting who did not submit an affidavit against the chief justice.
President Musharraf's botched attempt to sack the judge brought a political storm which has dogged his government ever since.
During that time, Gen Kiani again emerged as a saviour, helping with attempts to broker a power-sharing deal with former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
*As one of the army's most senior officers, Gen Kiani could confidently expect to take the top job. But because he was head of the controversial and shadowy ISI, some felt that he had disqualified himself from further promotion. *
No ISI chief has ever been appointed commander of Pakistan's army. The agency's dealings have often been at odds with the policy of the government of the day.
*Observers also contended that Gen Kiani was too much "his own man" for President Musharraf to place faith in him. *
*But Gen Kiani has patiently bided his time while the names of other potentials were bandied around. *
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
he is a smart man, someone preparing himself to be in a position that he cant be accused of bias by anyone.
well atleast ppl cant say musharraf picked someone who is his family or ethnicity, or one that has been a musharraf clone, or someoen who is opposed to judiciary or to benazir (or politicians)
so kiyani did get involved in politics but very balanced involvement..if you want to look for bias.
Yep he is smart so were the remaining 10 or so candidates in that other thread. He is also one of the senior generals. But its quite obvious why he was nominated to this post, not just because of his smartness or seniority. More to do with loyalty and a bit of understanding of politics and brokering deals and such. Mush did a military shuffle recently promoting his loyalist generals to important positions eg. corp commander rawalpindi. such a shuffles and appointing of this kiyani dude to COAS is indicative of Mush's desire to ensure none of his future govts are taken over. It takes more than one general or two to throw away a democratically elected govt. it was all strategic and pre-planned. yep Mush is smart that way
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
the dude looks quite competant from his profile: he is from the military belt of pakistan, a jhelumi, alumni of cadet college sarai alamgir etc etc he has got what it takes to be a leader and a soldier.
yeah he doesnt have stains of CJ affair, i dunno who else from that list of 10 had. i really dont know.
his association with BB in the past and PPP and presently is a bit bothersome to me. I just have a bad feeling about this for some reason.
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
did he supercede any general? like musharraf (ali kuli) and zia too did supercede other generals normally the head of state or government promotes his confidant or whom he has no fears of overthrowing him or interefering but our hsitory tells us that bhutto made a blunder and eventually lost his life my promoting zia and nawaz by promoting musharraf lost his government.
would the apdm object to his appointment??? will they accuse the PPP of endorsing his appointment???
Former ISI head and be apolitical thats hard to believe.Anyway I hope kiyani saab becomes fakhre Potohar,Punjab pakistan
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
did PPP endorse his appointment 
good point, i didnt think of that before, now im thinking it may be the case, maybe mushy and tushy discussed this issue during their secret meetings in abu dhabi etc
yeah bhutto and nawaz blunders by choosing the people that over threw them maybe because they were not military themselves and didnt know much about the people they were apointing , but i think mush made right decisions recently during his military shuffle. i think he has got it worked out to ensure his govt in future as a civilian isnt in any danger 
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Dear Sir General Kiyani!
This "nacheez" congrats you and the people of Pakistan on becoming COAS. This is the most pleasant of circumstances and God's gift to people of Pakistan.
Sir, i assure you that this servant will always be your true supporter.
Whenever, you highness will choose to do refrendum, this servant will vote for you and will bring the whole neighbourhood along.
Thank You
Distirct Nazim hopeful
Lota League
IRP
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
here is to hoping the new chief is a smart and wily person. i hope he has the resolve to remove jehadi elements from pak army and to turn the army into a custodian of moderation in the manner army was custodian of islamisation under zia and ns. as lal masjid saga indicates, the internal threat to pak is as great as external threat. lets hope the chief is up to the challenge.
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
God Bless the Visionary President Musharaf. 
God Bless Pakistan.
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Dear District Nazim hopeful,
Your letter has been received and analysed with the greatest of interest, as you know General Kiani is a thorough professional as such does not entertain politicians, however you are welcome to attend this Iftar party.
However after carefully looking through your file we have found no evidence of corruption or lotaism as such we suggest you come back when you obtain the appropriate experience (I also advise that you attend the Ahmad Raza Kasuri course on public speaking and Wasi Zafar workshop on appropriate slapping).
With reference to the planned referendum and the district elections, in case of the former I wish to reassure you while your support is appreciated your vote has already been cast on your behalf. In case of latter, the elections are not planned for another two years so once you have obtained the appropriate experience we will be willing to consider you for a safe seat like Dera Bugti. In light of the governments $15 dollars of forex reserves the locals should elect you without any problem.
Kind regards,
PoP
c/o
Richard Boucher
Department of State USA
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
So where is moin to tell us now that Kiyani is a real gora Punjabi who looks Greek or Turkish?
Moin, has been banned from gupshup until december 18, 2007
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Khehkashan: fortunately we have been saved by such statements, thank to admin team here :D
why man?
moin posts always made me laugh
they were very entertaining
and i spoke to moin, he doesnt mean what he says, he is just joking around
please unban him
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Moin, has been banned from gupshup until december 18, 2007
What will happen after dec 18? Will Rajputistan break away from Pakistan on that date?
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
^ I think he will be (s)elected as cabinet member to work alongside Sheikh Rasheed, hence we may not see his intelligent posts here, rather read his statements in newspapers.
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
So, there's no trash on this guy?
Re: Breaking News...Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
Saeen, shame on you [if you have "shame"] for making fun of the daughters and mothers of punjab!
Shame shame shame on making fun of mujra.. :p
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
hahahahahaha..good one :omg:
Re: Breaking News…Gen Ashfaq Kiani appointed new COAS
LOL.