When it was suggested that Pakistani women look outside of the Pakistani pool, it was not stated that they STOP looking within the Pakistani community, but simply that they ALSO look at other Muslim communities IN ADDITION TO the Pakistani community. It was not an either/or scenario, but rather:
Pakistani guys AND Muslim guys of other ethnicities = Pool of eligible men
Could you please start quoting the post you are replying to? Or will you need a classroom training for that? O look, I stooped to your level. I am out!
No I just thought people would know when I'm referring to something they say. I'd say its pretty obvious.
But it's not the first (and wont be the last :() time I've given someone more credit than I should have.
The reason, PCG, is that parents of girls become anxious when their daughters reach a certain age level and they start looking much sooner than for their sons.
Some of us have moms that make no effort even if you hit the age 40.
I think women did out number men at one point. BUT you can thank the Chinese and Indians for detesting females which has led to a tilt in favour of men. Which is a shame.
Believe it or not, the men who marry out of the religion…for them religion isn’t important in the first place, and more often than you think there never was a deal that the kids would be muslim. If mom never converts, and religion isn’t practiced in the home in the first place, the kids often do not end up muslim or are muslim just by name and are non-practicing.
People think somehow that the western muslims who are marrying out of their culture into the local population somehow are following the Quran’s guidance, and everything is peachy and their kids are all hijabi’s and mullah’s in the end.
That’s not the reality. For some it might be but for many others, families are disconnected from Islam. In fact, the guys who are disconnected to begin with are often found marrying out.
Or they’re just over-eager immigrants who are now realizing daughter dearest is following mom’s example and boozing it up on weekends.
I hope blaming everything but yourself and repeatedly making threads about it help you with your ultimate goal of securing a man. I mean how could they possibly not.
Oh and if thats not enough try one of these;
-bring ur mum to all ur meets with a prospective groom; men like wondering "could I marry em both and make it work"
-make sure you become very bitter and shut down all social interactions with people; this lets guys know we can leave you alone at home and have peace of mind because no one else is gonna wanna talk to you
-consistently set standards ridiculously high; this is key. This will help you sift out all the crap and you will be left with nuggets of gold.
-always be more concerned with with your entitlements rather than your responsibilities; absolutely vital to a successful marriage, many claim this works just as well before marriage as it does after.
Hope this helps!
If my blogs bother you, you could just choose to not read them.
If the intelligent, ambitious, educated desi men prefer not to use such media, could it be that there is something wrong with it? Or at least they do not prefer it? Should we not trust their judgement?
If most of the 'eligible bachelors' are looking elsewhere, there are two possibilities:
It is a good judgement call. Then it necessarily is not their fault.
If they are making bad judgement, they shouldn't be good rishta prospects anyways!
I agree, the good guys are probably looking elsewhere. Or actually, there are so few good guys, that they don't have to look or make an effort. Often you hear guys complain about how they've reached a certain age and aunties are coming out of woodworks to set them up with someone.
The problem is that if we look around in our community, it's very common to find guys who have 1) married out to non-muslim girls 2) are partying, and not marrying if they can help it 3) marrying nice mummy daddy girl from Pakistan and immigrating the girl in - seen more in the older families in the US, I noticed it's becoming less popular with the younger crowd around here now that everyone recognizes the immigration is a headache
The rest of the guys aren't good catches. Maybe my standards are way too high :( But I think if you're looking for a guy who went to college, and has a stable steady job, I would THINK those aren't too high standards.
But going back to the original topic, rishta aunties don’t have many profiles to begin with of guys - mostly they have profiles of endless numbers of girls.
So then if you are a guy in the community, I’m curious - where is your family looking ?
Believe it or not, the men who marry out of the religion...for them religion isn't important in the first place, and more often than you think there never was a deal that the kids would be muslim. *If mom never converts, and religion isn't practiced in the home in the first place, the kids often do not end up muslim or are muslim just by name and are non-practicing. *
People think somehow that the western muslims who are marrying out of their culture into the local population somehow are following the Quran's guidance, and everything is peachy and their kids are all hijabi's and mullah's in the end.
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That's not the reality. For some it might be but for many others, families are disconnected from Islam. **In fact, the guys who are disconnected to begin with are often found marrying out.
Or they're just over-eager immigrants who are now realizing daughter dearest is following mom's example and boozing it up on weekends.
OMG PCG, please stop yourself. Those are such gross generalizations I don't even know where to begin. Stop judging people and generalizing about a wide population based on a few cases you have seen around. Your observations are not the facts. Just stop it.
Aaze really? Do you not see how many brown people with muslims names couldn't give a rat's behind about their religion? How many families do you know with non-muslim moms where the kids are all perfect muslims.
It's honestly a hit /miss process. If your mom is NOT muslim, she doesn't practice, doesn't believe in Islam, or practices another religion, we can delude ourselves all we want into believing patriarchial ideas, but that woman WILL influence her kids. They may very well choose to follow her example, especially if they're already living in a western society where there is discrimination against muslims and Islam.
And newsflash, it's the guys with LESS faith or where faith isn't important to them, that tend to marry non-muslims. More religious guys have a preference for muslim women, they want to grow in faith with their spouse. Not the other way around.
And a lot of girls marrying muslims - they aren't converting. That's another newsflash. We like to think they are because that's the public announcement, but that's all it usually is, it's a public announcement.
It's a hit/miss process with anyone these days. But to conclude that someone doesn't give a rats ass about their religion because they marry outside of Islam - is pure BS.
What you described is not limited to families with different faiths. I know plenty of brown kids with practicing muslim parents who are screwed up and I know plenty of kids with non practicing parents who are much better muslim than any of us will ever be.
If religion means something to someone, they will tend to marry within their own religion. Exceptions exist, but that's the reality around us.
Because muslim guys are increasingly disconnected from their religion and faith - common to see guys being raised without being taught Urdu, and with different rules like different curfews, able to hang out with "friends" etc, they're dating. Believe it or not, most desi guys out there are dating. And while our girls are sitting at home being overprotected, those boys are dating, and eventually, many of them marry those girls.
And then we wonder why a rishta aunty has 20 girls to 1 guy in her portfolio.