"Bloody Jews"

Semi, fact of the matter is most of these guys can't stand the fact that ISrael is here, it is the freest of any other entity in the region and continues to get stronger. this is not about palestinian rights...or proportion of populations, Abdullah is peeing in his pants when numbers are discussed.

this is about inculcating a culture of blame displacement through fatwas and sermons at some great tragedy that befell upon a people. As if in 1947 the lands allocated ot the palestinians were not adequate, frankly a lot more that what they will eventually end up with. It is these brothers and sisters of the palestinians who opted for war int eh first place in that region and lost what could have been enough space for peaceful coexistence. It is an all or nothing game...reality hasn't sunk in yet. It will...Israel is not going ot be pushed out to the sea and the conitued circel of violence will only limit wha the palestinians can ultimately achieve.

Re: "Bloody Jews"

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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *

i am so disappointed with this type of thinking. In just the same manner as we want the world to recognize that not all Muslims are the same, no Muslim society is the same as another, there is a huge diversity in beliefs and practices within Muslim countries (contrast Indonesia to Afghanistan to Egypt for example), so why stereotype another group of people. Does it get us anywhere productive ?
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Nadia_H should be applauded for speaking up.

Yea!!! Nadia_H.

My thinking is that if a post makes one feel insulted or offended... if the post is factually incorrect....etc...Post should remain..(within reason)

Those that are insulted should post replys...as to why they disagree, are displeasured or what offended them...

If one is aware that comment is factually incorrect...Facts should be corrected..

because

(possibility exists that one offends unintentionally)

(" " that one not normally offensive .. having bad day)

(" " that understanding occur... )

(" "hmmm...I didn't know that...)

(" "misunderstood or misread post)

('' '' education occurs)

I think good idea to ask reasons behind posters comment...

attempting to understand the view..

even if one disagrees...

Not always easy to do...

because ...

when one feels offended or insulted ...

the emotions kick in...

and hard to refrain from one might later regret..

AAG many times guilty of ^ instead of saying hey...I'm offended ..why'd ya say that? what did ya mean by that?

AAG has resolved to listen, really listen to opinions of others.

^^ Bloody overly emotional yanknai

AAG is speaking in third person.

bloody threads..

Well..

AAG was being serious...

But now has serious case of bloody "giggles."

This might be a waste of my time, but I’ll give it a try anyway.

***Originally posted by usmanjunooni: *

wowow really cannot understand for wht motives u r defending jews …** Because they are human beings and creations of Allah, and making generalizations about them is nonproductive. In addition, why not defend someone who is being treated unfairly? I would expect others to do the same for me.

i m sure here most of the people dont no the history of isrealis the way they behave… Really? What in the history of Jews and/or Israelis justifies the statements you are making?

**jews most important objective is to destrcut muslims ** Oh? I wasn’t aware of that covenant. You must have a really good relationship with Jews to know their secret plans.

**…they r even involved in bombings in karachi and infactt back in mid 90 plenty of raw and mossad agent were arrested for being involved in firing on mosques imam bargas and providing weapons and bombs…every day they kill plenty of muslims ** And what of the Muslims who do the same things? Will you dismiss them as well? Will you dismiss all Muslims because of the actions of a few ignorant/angry/scared people?

y u dont shout for it…really strange People do shout for it. Some people might expect more from other Muslims, as they represent Islam and the Umma and cannot stand to see some misguided souls give everyone else a bad name.

**..and its my opinion jews r blood suckers and infact they r and no body should have any problem ** Yes. It is your opinion, and only that. infact i did not bash any member or did not do any personal attacks… Nope. Just attacked all followers of a religion. That’s not so bad. :rolleyes:

** ya again i support hammas suicide attacks and jews r very very destructive** interesting juxtaposition. You support suicide attacks and then say Jews are destructive. In what ways? All of them? Where is your support for making such a claim about an entire group of people?

…get out of world of dreams… Perhaps we should all do that.

tel me wht we have got by making ourseleves moderate nothing We have our Deen, Imaan, and some peace of mind.

** only unity proper guidance and education and islamic spread will save us int his world ** Certainly.

..u people inspite of coming up with comments talking abt my statment BLOODY JEWS …i ask u to prove me wrong. I could prove you wrong by showing you one kind, open-minded, honest, caring Jewish person. Can I prove you wrong hundreds of times over?

..remember women children houses r every men weak points and he cannot comprise on it in any any condition thts wht palestine doing Sure. You need to distinguish between supporting the Palestinians and hating Jewish people. These are two totally different things. If that isn’t clear, please let me know.

..just saw news in which i saw plenty of youths were in blood and infact death numbers r much more then wht we know
may allah help kashmir bosnia palestine chacnia nigerian muslims to defend themselves and give them freedom..
Ameen.

if u people cannot do anything for these suffering people then dont call their struggle terrisot or by saying all the jews r not bad… Your claim that all Jews are bad is as wrong as another persons claim that all Palestinian struggles are equal to terrorism. Be careful of being hypocritical about such issues.

**..u people sould shout when hamas makes atatck after isreal stops their violence and its betta. ** I don’t see any evidence showing that Hamas has actually lead Israel to stop taking violent action toward Palestinians.

^ good stuff sahar :k:

some people can be so ignorant

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Live and let live. Not a challenging concept.

well sahar nice reply...i appreciate ur comments...but still i dont mind suicide attacks on jews people...jews people from paletine to american to india to every where r trying to destruct muslims.....can u neglect it???
i want to ask u tell me how suicde attacks r wrong???inspite of all kilings u still they will say hello to isreal ...nah..u hit i hit....jews know tht whole land belongs to palestine then y this should not leave tht place???jews always r on back of their government violence ??can u neglect it???
if all jews r not bd then tell me just single jews who is saying against isreal???no 1 yes no1 ..i have read plenty plenty abt jews and especially mossad how this rganisation operates???
read mufti ibrahim fatwa on tht issue and u no the excellence of tht mufti..u r disagree to me its ur opinion and i cannot force my views toooo anybody......and ya yasir arafat is now becoming old and all people now looks for hezbollah and hammas ....
abt bashing hehehe man i think u dont go to gora forums...their abusing language against islam is just horrible......my point again let do these suicide attacks wht r they doing cuz this is the only way....and my point dont shout for tht..cuz u hit i hit.......and sadz inspite of poking bose come up witm comments like sahar then plz dont reply

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Live and let live. Not a challenging concept.
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miss i wanna ask u think this theory exists????? no no no no no
u think americans and jews will allow us to live in prosper???? think again..i m sorry this theory does not exist now want prove???loook around urself??........now america is moving towards sham then iran and then pak......and u no tht.....

Because the religion of Islam is such a threat, not those perverting it.
:smack:

usman.. why are u carrying so much hatred and vengence inside u?

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*Originally posted by usmanjunooni: *
my point again let do these suicide attacks wht r they doing cuz this is the only way....and my point dont shout for tht..cuz u hit i hit.......and sadz inspite of poking bose come up witm comments like sahar then plz dont reply
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Firstly what school did you go to?

Secondly....

I think you have been taught ideas that ingrained prejuudice inside your heart.

I want to hear solutions.

I refuse to listen to blame.

As if...I have any say at all in the matter....

I don't.

Doesn't affect my life-style if an Israeli tko's a Palistinian.

Or vice versa.

But inside it hurts.

oh guys come on loook wht the hell america and isreal indians and their secret agencies r doing....every day plenty kill u want me to love them?????nahhh...sadz yara yes i have so much hatenes for jews and american soldiers not christians...... and live and let live theory does not exist now

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Why can’t we all get along. (I am so thoughtful and introspective, right guys :hug: )

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Originally posted by usmanjunooni: *
**but still i dont mind suicide attacks on jews people
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Usman Junooni,

Just wondering - do you know who Noam Chomsky is?

Usman junooni: Do you know who Salman Rushdie is?

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Originally posted by Nadia_H: *
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Usman Junooni,

Just wondering - do you know who Noam Chomsky is?
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abe jo bhi ho tht does not change facts....yes i support hammas attacks on isrealis civilians from my heart and soul cuz i would have done the same if i was a palestine....
love hamams hezbollah

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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
Usman junooni: Do you know who Salman Rushdie is?
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then aask me u no who is musfarraf
u will tell me abt him hehe