qubool hai 
The other problem is that each of us may have a different level of tolerance about BS. Things that makes your blood boil may only result in a raised eye-brow for another. One gentleman who visits GS, once threatened to slit the throat of another member after reading something. Someone else would have read exactly the same thing and may just have muttered a "Lahawl-e-wala-quwat" and moved on.
So its difference in perspective. You may think, I am outraged, why are others not outraged. Well, maybe because they don't find it outrageous. Maybe, like you, they can't be bothered to waste their time arguing over the same thing again and again.
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Why wait for someone else to create an outrage, or lack thereof? Do it yourself. And if you can't be bothered, then, well then, we know what that means :)
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Because I've exhausted my creating of outrages resources.
I would much rather that everybody just respected everybody else. That no idiot from our side posted anything stupid about some other religion, so that I didn't have to hear something about Islam and vice versa. And hence, there would be no vicious cycle of insults.
But that is too much to expect at GS I know. I think my age is catching upto me.
^ Thats a Utopia. Not likely to happen. Doesn't matter how much you try. :)
Plus, those who disagree with you, do it for a reason. They think they are right. Why would they give it up?
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Plus, those who disagree with you, do it for a reason. They think they are right. Why would they give it up?
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I have no problems with people who disagree with what I'm saying. They should definitely not give it up. That's what GS is for.
But surely there is a civilized way of disagreeing with someone? And that would mean not making distorted and contrived references to the scripture of other faiths... not telling someone else how much superior one is to them... and many other such trivialities.
I used the word "disagree" just to keep it polite. It really meant those who trash your beliefs and your faith. Hope its clear :)
Anyway, I am not here to defend or attack anyone. Just wanted to share my thoughts for those who miss no opportunity to blame other members and the mods for "allowing" some people to post "garbage".
i dont understand why opinions should be removed in the first place... sure outrageous insults and demeaning behaviour should be condemned.. but one should be allowed to express their views without being asked to be banned
well I was going to say something. but having read usmanjunooni's latest post, I think I'll just go to sleep.
Bloody guppies.
wowow really cannot understand for wht motives u r defending jews .....
just does not make sense...i m sure here most of the people dont no the history of isrealis the way they behave......jews most important objective is to destrcut muslims...they r even involved in bombings in karachi and infactt back in mid 90 plenty of raw and mossad agent were arrested for being involved in firing on mosques imam bargas and providing weapons and bombs.....every day they kill plenty of muslims y u dont shout for it.....really strange..and its my opinion jews r blood suckers and infact they r and no body should have any problem ..i dont no wht faisal realy had problem in my post he sent me warning infact i did not bash any member or did not do any personal attacks...
ya again i support hammas suicide attacks and jews r very very destructive...get out of world of dreams...tel me wht we have got by making ourseleves moderate nothing only unity proper guidance and education and islamic spread will save us int his world..u people inspite of coming up with comments talking abt my statment BLOODY JEWS ...i ask u to prove me wrong...remember women children houses r every men weak points and he cannot comprise on it in any any condition thts wht palestine doing..just saw news in which i saw plenty of youths were in blood and infact death numbers r much more then wht we know
may allah help kashmir bosnia palestine chacnia nigerian muslims to defend themselves and give them freedom..if u people cannot do anything for these suffering people then dont call their struggle terrisot or by saying all the jews r not bad.........i m coward u r coward and accept tht..u people sould shout when hamas makes atatck after isreal stops their violence and its betta.....and ya faisal i would like to request u to tell me where i bashed any member ?????thanxsss
About a week ago I stated that Gupshup was used to promote anti-jewish hatred.
I rest my case.....
^^ bloody drama queen.
Now you are insulting me by calling me a homosexual? Sheesh....
Bloody bozos! :)
You shouldn't point your finger at the Jews who are anti-zionists and against the zionist state of Israel. But the Jews who kill muslims, harrass them, demolish their houses and occupy the palestinian land must be severely detested. For example an American jew should not be blamed if he thinks the state of Israel is illegal and he opposes the zionist venture in their so called promised land.
Hey..hey hey..Is-rael i shere to stay… Hey..hey…hey..IS-Rael is here to stay. :bhangra:
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You shouldn't point your finger at the Jews who are anti-zionists and against the zionist state of Israel. But the Jews who kill muslims, harrass them, demolish their houses and occupy the palestinian land must be severely detested. For example an American jew should not be blamed if he thinks the state of Israel is illegal and he opposes the zionist venture in their so called promised land.
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^ What about an American Jew who thinks Israel does have a right to exist but disagrees with their policies in achieving security? Does just supporting the right of Israel to exist mean they should be severly detetested?
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I used the word "disagree" just to keep it polite. It really meant those who trash your beliefs and your faith. Hope its clear :)
Anyway, I am not here to defend or attack anyone. Just wanted to share my thoughts for those who miss no opportunity to blame other members and the mods for "allowing" some people to post "garbage".
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Faisal, just to add to your veiw, if you don't mind..I would use the language which can be understood even by a school kid,,, Hate is like a tenis ball, as hard you hit it against the wall as fast and hard it will bounce back to you.... and by the way it applies to Love as well. but these guy probably don't know what love is,,, no offence but that is what your posts say here.
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^ What about an American Jew who thinks Israel does have a right to exist but disagrees with their policies in achieving security? Does just supporting the right of Israel to exist mean they should be severly detetested?
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^ What about an American Jew who thinks Israel does have a right to exist but disagrees with their policies in achieving security? Does just supporting the right of Israel to exist mean they should be severly detetested?
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The American Jew must also see the right of the Palestinians to their homeland before the Zionists came. If the American Jew supported the way they obtained the land at the expense of the Palestinians and supported the incursions and occupying of the Palestinian land he has supported the main aim of the Zionist movement and has accepted Israel. He should be hated to a degree but not as much as the Jews who supports the recent incursions and killings.
He who supports the fence and other Zionist ideas to dominate that area in the Middle East is indeed pro-Zionist and anti-Palestinian.
Zionists in their quest for 'security' are infact causing instability in the Palestinian lands. So it is not a matter of their policies in achieving security but their hardline policies to cause havoc and harm to the infrastructure of Palestine.
I didn't realize that there were so many levels of hatred.