Black magic

Hi everyone,it’s been a while since I’ve posted on here.

So I have a question, out of kindness and goodwill I feel I should tell my friends aunt who is also her sister in law that my friend is doing black magic against there mother in law for I’ll gained wealth, basically my friends
Mother in law is very wealthy and had come over from Canada to buy 3 properties…
My friend has already been brought a freehold 3 bed house from this mother in law without any expense of her own, infact her mother in law is actually her step mother in law and not of any real relation to my friends husband (friends husbands step mum).

Anyway long story short, this mother in law has all of a sudden had a strange character change and I am beinging to suspect black magic is involved, the mother in law is throwing money at this step daughter in law and ignoring her own real daughter in laws.

Now my friend has her eye on a 5 bedroom massive mansion type house and her mother in law is on the process of getting her it and paying ALL legal expenses too!!!

Yes I am jelouse, yes I have the green eye, and that is also the reason I want to blab to her sister in laws about my suppositions of black magic, I am a family friend so know all her family well, however I was going to tell them anonymously via a fake fb account…

Should I tell them or keep my mouth shut???
If I keep my mouth shut have I also committed black magic by not speaking up??

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maybe see a psychologist, older people can get lonely and be easily manipulated it happens all the time. It is her money and she can do whatever she pleases. There is no such thing as magic.

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While magic is not the cause behind every mishap or misfortune, if you believe that the Quran and what the Messenger SAWS has taught us to be the truth, then that means magic exists. If one does not believe in the Quran and Sunnat, then they will say nonchalantly say whatever they feel. But if one does indeed have iman in this, then they need to be careful about the words they utter because without realizing it our words may reflect lack of respect toward Allah and religion.

As for your friend, put the jealousy aside and talk to your friend. Try guiding her because to dabble in magic entails kufr and shirk so it’s a big deal. And don’t be jealous of her; there’s no respect/dignity in any kind of material wealth that was gained through haram means because it’s tainted. And if reasoning with this friend of yours does not work, then you can attempt sending an anonymous message if your are 100% confident that you will not get caught.

Also, it’s best to keep a safe distance around such friends. Avoid getting too close to her or sharing details of your personal life (especially any successes) if she’s easily envious of others. And when you’re around her, take precautions such as reciting your 3 Quls and Aytul Kursi etc etc…which is something we should be doing regularly anyway.

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I believe in magic of hard work, great attitude, planning, strategy and goal setting. Today I saw this young lady running at the track she was ripped and shredded like a Goddess..must have been magic that gave her that amazing physique..lol

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Spare us the anecdotes, please. And read carefully, cuz you don’t. Nobody is denying the “magic” of hard work, a great attitude, planning and strategy. I believe in those things too. However, at the same time I also believe in the unseen. The sun, the moon, many of the naturally occurring phenomena that are a part of our daily lives are not being controlled by us human beings no matter how far we have come in terms of advancements in science and technology. There’s a saying that the greatest trick played by the devil was in convincing people that he doesn’t exist. It seemed to have worked on many people and unfortunately it’s gone to the point that people don’t believe in the existence of God or if they do believe in Allah, they make “light” of things that He has revealed.

Hard work, planning, and goal setting are all important. Using your aqal is essential too. But aqal and iman go hand in hand. Relying on just aqal and effort will only go so far. Respect toward Allah entails believing in what He has revealed in His book. Again spare me the anecdotes of how you, and some woman/man/your wife, your kids/ your client/neighbor/kutta/billi/chooha/choonti/alien you knew made it to the pinnacle of whatever through their hard work or conversely reaped their destruction because of some deficiency in attitude and effort. It has to be a combination of aqal and iman and iman has a lot to do with belief in the unseen. There has to be a balance. If a person has no faith in the unseen, or is very skeptical of it, then they’ll never get it. They’ll continue to mock and point at the other person for not believing in practical efforts and no matter how many times you explain it to them, their needle will be stuck on the same accusation/assumption, lol.

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I can start my new car using my phone from a thousand miles away, I will bet you 50k that all your black magic guys put together can’t do that. ..the world has F35s, satellites ICBMs we have black magic…yeah sure!!!

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Well first of all, are you sure about all this black magic thing that she is actually doing it? And if its true, man you hv got some wrong company. These are evil practices and people conducting it are the worst people on earth. Stay away. And yea, do tell the family but then who knows if your so-called friend doesnt do a magic on you?!!

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Black magic does not exist. Please do not dwell into these negativities and leave these people alone.

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I’m 95% sure she is doing black magic as about 3 months ago she asked me if I know of any black magic people that can help her put her husband in her control.. I told her I’m not a person that does this sort of stuff as it’s sin… she didn’t say anything.
Also she always told me her mother in law was kunjuice and I’ve seen this first hand, she was tight with her money last time I met her (last year). But this time she was splashing cash at my friend, so how come this sudden change of personality?

As long as i not comittig sin by closing my mouth then I might just stay quite.

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If there is no such thing as black magic then I’m sure in your eyes there’s no such thing as god or religion or of any unseen thing of that matter…
if you don’t have an answer for the question then politely keep your mouth shut as I didn’t ask for your opinion but for advice, and that you can’t give so move on to some other place…

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Thank you for the advice… Yes I was thinking to talk to her first but if I do that then she doesn’t listen and then I tell her family it will be obvious it was me who told…

If I keep quite I’m not sinning to am I?

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Well there were these women who believed in tona tootka and their families sent them to this miraculous peer because they were not able to have a child and 300 of them became pregnant so I guess magic does exist. You can google how people believing in this get rewarded. Good luck to you trying to find a way to benefit from other peoples wealth and hard work. Here they teach us to work hard.

Pakistan Maulvi/Pir made 300 Women Pregnant on Bed of NoorMohammed Abbasi

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Yup, there are stories like that where the magic was naught but semen. But these cases don’t prove that magic doesn’t exist. It’s done through the use of jinns…or spirits/demons as they are called in the west. Don’t do a biased search…do a fair and objective search on the Internet and you’ll find that many of the “higher-ups” in the fields of technology, politics, and entertainment were and are involved in the occult sciences or dark arts…in the west. Yup, the West. Ever hear of Aleister Crowley? Freemasonry? Take a break from researching only the things that make you turn your nose up at fellow Desis…and do a much broader search on this topic, Bobby Ji, and you will find that this evil is not confined to just the Desi folk…but rather it has prevalence all over the world.

I question what are your views in God…do you believe He exists? Because if you do believe in Him, then He cannot be perceived by our 5 senses. He is part of the ghaib or unseen and if you believe in Him, then you shouldn’t have such a hard time believing in negative/evil forces that cannot be seen. You can explain away the mechanisms behind starting your car with your iphone, but can you explain the design of the universe? Who’s controlling that? Your iphone? Each day the sun rises, night falls, the seasons change…and every cell in your body knows what do on its own…and even the brain which it receives instructions from has its own intelligence that You and Apple Inc. didn’t design. Who is controlling all this Bobby Ji?

A balanced mind is one that recognizes that there IS fraud in some cases of black magic and in other cases it is legit. But if you’re going to dismiss it as hocus pocus…I wonder where do you draw the line? How did this world come into being and who is controlling it? Your iphone? Cuz if you’re going to dismiss the existence of magic and jinns…then does that mean you dismiss the existence of God as well? Or perhaps you don’t believe in the mainstream Islam. But I am certainly curious.

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If you’re absolutely 100% confident that you won’t get caught if you warn her family anonymously…then go for it. But you need to be 100% confident about this. Let’s say that you decide to inform her family first and her family member tells her that they received an anonymous warning from someone…your friend could still “suspect” YOU of being the one who warned them especially if YOU were the only soul she confided this secret to. She may not have concrete evidence that it was you, but she could suspect you…and that suspicion alone could turn her against you…maybe lead her to taking revenge from you, etc etc. If she has told several people about doing black magic, then it would be harder for her to figure out who squealed on her. So,whatever it is that you decide to do…you should consider all possible angles and risks/consequences before taking any step.

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You do know that scientists can detect the force of a millionth of an atom I wonder why their gauges dont go crazy at the Jadoo.

Oh of-course dear, balanced minds don’t believe in cause and effect but in black magic..lol I know Zuckerberg and Besos must have gotten their success thru chilla and Jadoo, I wonder why multi billion dollar corporations dont hire maulvis to do waziffas and saher to do jaddoo…you should advice them on how to be balanced..lol. You are hilarious.

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No,balance entails looking down on others and tooting your own horn in every other post. At least this pattern makes it easy to identify you. Carry on, Bobby. Lol.

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Just a simple question, if Apples sales are down and someone with your mindset in the board room suggested that Samsung did Kalla Jadoo how would that work out for him..could he then give a lecture on balance and faith etc. If you have balance can you let us know how that is working out for you?

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Do you know how to read? Go back to my very first post in this thread where I started out by saying that magic cannot be blamed for every single mishap or misfortune that takes place. Somehow you have got it into your head that all the folks that believe in in the possibility of nazar/magic will always blame their problems on these two things…that they are unable to consider other possibilities or unable to use cause and effect reasoning. When I fall sick, when I get into an accident, when the school that I teach at fares poorly on some standardized test…I don’t rush to the conclusion that magic or the evil eye are at work. I try to consider all angles and factors. But I would never go as far as to say that magic doesn’t exist at all because if Allah has mentioned it, it exists and to say that it doesn’t is a transgression. So, firstly I would consider all factors in a problem and also I know my audience. Most likely the audience at Apple would consist of folks with YOUR kind of mindset who find themselves to be sooo modern that they would mock any mention of the unseen. And I wouldn’t give them the chance to mock my religion. So, I know my audience. Stop thinking that just because Muslims believe in the existence of jinns and shaitan and the evil eye …that they are stupid and incapable of using deductive reasoning skills. With that said, you need to know your audience as well. The majority audience on this forum are Muslims and many of them are very intelligent and capable of seeing cause and effect relationships but ALSO believe in the unseen because it’s a required tenet of their faith.

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The chances of her not believing you is higher then being affected by the black magic

Both seems likely

Avoiding all these lots will be better

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When people spoke against burning innocent women as witches they were called heretics. My wife has a relative who believes in magic, she would do horrible things against us and when she fails and is in need of our help then she says all the stuff she did was because she was under the influence of magic. I studied business and never read that magic could be a threat to corporate profits.

I wonder why Victoria Secrets gorgeous models don’t get affected by Nazar.