Gina,
It says that in an intellectual discussion, you have to present evidence beyond that of an auto-authoritative book. I invite you to try this tactic of yours in any university or academic setting, and see how far you get. I am able to separate my personal bias from my academic research. You have shown repeatedly that you are not able to.
MS I have entered it head-on and when u say I can't say everything based on a book (The Quran) and need to support my answer using scientific proof that actually says it all =)
I have given several links, and none of them are good enuff?
Ok lemme post a real story for you. My neighbors were going for Umrah and they left their 13 yr old son behind cuz of school. He used to come over and play the PS with me and the day his family came back their maid left without a trace. That kid (very bright) wud always keep the lights-off, and spoke to "people" and smile at them. We have a mosque near our house and every time the azaan was called out he wud scream and ask the maulvi to shut-up (this kid used to pray) he used the filthy langauge with his mother and wud run to the garage at 3am and say sumone's calling him. His family sent him to a mental inst for 7 months and no change.. they brought an aalim from syria and the aalim's first words were where is u're Bengali maid? (how did the aalim know they had a maid and she was bengali?)
The kid cudn't be held-down by 10 labourers when the azaan was in progress, the aalim asked the family to look for a small bag containing black powder (which was found under his mattress) the aalim asked them to burn it..when the family tried to burn it Shayed ran and snatched it away and threw it. The aalim began his "treatment" Surah Jinn and many others and after 3 of these recitations the aalim told them the name of the person that did it (how did the aalim know?)
Number one, this is proof of a confirmation bias. You assume that an exorcism worked because you made the correlation between your belief of it's efficiency, and the child's response. However, when you are raised in a culture or belief system that reinforce a belief in exorcism and possession, you are more likely to psychologically concede to being "cured," when an action (the exorcism itself), reinforces it. There is LOADS of research on this. And there are many, many explanations available. You just choose not to exhaust them (and for psychosis, 7 months is hardly enough).
So MS u want proof from the Quran? When it's mentioned in the Quran and u keep bringing up scientific proof that itself shows enuff about u're Imaan.. u're questioning several hadith and the Quran itself when u say it.
Anyway once again, I've said enuff been to many scholar's and have their view as well..if u still want proof from the Quran lol I don't have much to say! I'm not convincing people that they have magic done on them nor am I encouraging them to blv every mishap is due to magic.. they ONLY point i'm making is that it exists! I'm not repeating myself over n over again..everyone blv whatever u want to.
No. This has nothing to do with my iman or lack thereof. This has to do with separating personal bias from fact. As a researcher and academic, it is imperative that one does so. You are unable to do so, and therein is your limitation. I'm not questioning hadith, I'm questioning you.
Scholars functioning within a theological system (non-secular), are always going to be biased. To test the validity of anything you must first remove yourself from that bias and test it.
The standards of the global academic community stand. If something is true, it can be tested and proved to be true. It has not yet been proved to be true, and therefore is not.
I would like to add that you have become so defensive that you have turned aggressive and insulting. It speaks volumes about your ability to engage in such a debate. Ad hominems are utilized when one no longer can refute another. I don't want to be on poor terms with you, but you just let the negativity flow.