Mr. sorry to interfere but........do u mean that jihad is not ur duty ?......
or is it that ur name starts with BAl and ends with thakery ........as u preach basant and it was balli who said that men killed during basant are our shuhdah ?....
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bao yeah it's me Bal Thackeray posting here on GS. What i want to know is why if jihad is your duty what are you doing sitting at that keyboard? Are the oppressors of the muslims sitting at their keyboards whining? No they are out their doing their stuff unlike you because they aren't baghairat or worried about everyone else's baghairati while sitting on their hands themselves I guess.
bao yeah it's me Bal Thackeray posting here on GS. What i want to know is why if jihad is your duty what are you doing sitting at that keyboard? Are the oppressors of the muslims sitting at their keyboards whining? No they are out their doing their stuff unlike you because they aren't baghairat or worried about everyone else's baghairati while sitting on their hands themselves I guess.
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AHAH.....
Birather .....i am just back from jihad some months ago ...from kashmir...so keep me out of this stupid logic......
and for thos who have not...its simple.....atleast they are are trying to motivate others aswell untill they themselves are ready for it...by the way it is still not nafeer e aam wali stage ..
Meet u in mumbai......watch out for suicide attack ...:Smile:
Typical responses, nothing new guys. Some muslim like lajo, or baho, or salman say the truth and they have to be shipped to chechnya immediately. Other muslims can say whatever the hell they want and still enjoy their stupid backyard flower garden in birmingham somewhere. As though they are exempt from Allah’s justice not knowing that even words of mouth will add credit to your balance even though you yourself may not have participated in it.
Forget the keyboard, thinking bad in your heart (of islamic injustices) is still a low form of faith which Allah recognizes. Its in hadith.
The level of faith some of our fellow muslims have, disturbs me, the little comfort I have atleast where I come from (Luton-UK) this trend is changing, at first gradually, and picking up speed, as more and more brothers have realized, one is lost without Islam.
Reading some of the earlier responses in this page, please keep your feelings under control when you are responding in this thread. None of you do any favours for your respective personal religions if you throw down personal insults towards each other. If you refuse to follow the example of Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) when he interacted with others, then perhaps we need to start focusing on that much more. *Consider this a general WARNING for everyone.*
Lajawab uncle, you left Pakistan and went to the US, there is something called 'Freedom of Speech' over there. I am not going to debate whether its right or wrong, but if you chose to go to that country, you need to follow the law over there, and sadly you cannot bash anyones skulls or slit throats like you (and some of your esteemed colleagues) threaten people here on the internet. Even in Pakistan you cannot do such things, but sometimes jahaalat over there prevails and fundos get to do alot of things they shouldnt. I remember when Babri Masjid was demolished by Hindu fandamentalists, our jahil mollahs and molivs destroyed every Hindu temple they could find in Pakistan.
TUMS, if you think that argument is so valid I hope you take Salman’s buddy AQ’s advice and stop posting in Shor Sharaba. Coz his valid and interesting argument will apply there also
Thanx brother it really feels a bit better in these cold hearted people, but it doesnt worry me because its only 3-5 people who come purposely on religion forum for one sole reason. ( I think i dont have to mention that )
** Mr. Extreme** Ever heard of this term in Urdu ’ YEA DHOOHAN SA KANAH SAYE OOTHTA HAYE ?’ In your case it will be from your heart.
Relax dear, and take a chill pill. Why you getting so edgy? Just because another person agreed with what I had to say and you started tripping? Its ok life is not fair, $hit happens. Try to live with it.
BTW, I know you have something against AR, don’t drag me in your nonsense phadda. I would appreciate if you don’t step on my toes I won’t on yours. It doesn’t get simpler than that. Don’t try to be so cute with words when I barely even know you.
strongman :k: well put brother and PRECISELY right. Nothing new at all more or less same exact words. Pata nahi in logoun ko paisaye miltaye hein aisa kernaye kaye.
*******OooooOuch that hurts … Me no see no response… Bao JazkAllah brother.
Very very proud of you as a Muslim. May Allah give me the same courage someday, infact sab musalmano ko taufeeq daye ( ameen )
Faisal Bhai You are absolutely right that our aim should be tomake da’waa. But meri itni si baat logoun ko samjh nahi aa rahi kaye, Kaye Please for Allahs sake, develop the same amount of love in our hearts for our prophet mohammad saw, as we have for our families. I am NO ONE to judge people but IMO it is the fact that majority of us don’t understand this point that the love of prophet, the izzat of prophet should be higher than the izzat of our families. Is it too much to ask to respect An’Hazoor above our families?
One does not have to pick fights or kill anybody, the least one can do when you see a Salman Rushdee or a Rajpaul, the LEAST one can do is raise their voice against them. One shouldn’t just sit back when one sees someone writing disgusting books about the prophet. One should take one step forward and do THE BEST to ones ability to stop such awful crime.
** Nescio** Ma man, How are you ? Good ?
Bro, I am kind of doubtful if I would make any sense to you or not, because I don’t know which thread but I read that you wanted to know why days are not sacred in Mars or something. So, I am kind of shaky that my answers would make any sense to you. Judging from the previous posts, you tend to walk out of that thread, where ever some sense is made to you. (Please don’t ask me to pull out the previous posts as I wont do it, help your self out. Thanks in advance)
Any ways, I will yet try my best to help you understand. I gave examples of family particularly sisters and mothers and sisters, because in our religion or if you happen to be from Pakistan you would know that Islam has more respect to women over men. We are BOUND to respect women by Islam. Izzat of a women is something very dear to a Muslim, Even if it’s a jamadar, when someone says something to his wife or sister or mother, he will do his best to protect his families ‘LAAJJ’, izzat. * Nes, I am just generalizing your opinion might be different of that Jamadar, don’t quote me on that please thanks.*
I gave that example because, we happen to care for that izzat above the izzat of our Prophet Mohammad saw. This is my OPINION I could be wrong. Just like you said where you get that that assumption of 80% and my answer to you was ‘If every one peaks in their own ‘Gar-e-baan’, we will find the 80%.
On your second query, not only bao answered the question, in addition to that it totally depends on your ‘Zameer’. It all depends on the inside of you. If you don’t feel how the majority would feel then I think its ok. Every one is different from each other; every one has the right to think distinctively. Last but not least, I must have questioned you for disrespecting prophet saw, just do not remember on which occasion (as there are numerous of them). Please quote me from there and I will answer to that.
Thanks a bunch man, even I couldn’t have said it better.
** Mr. Extreme** Ever heard of this term in Urdu ' YEA DHOOHAN SA KANAH SAYE OOTHTA HAYE ?' In your case it will be from your heart.
Relax dear, and take a chill pill. Why you getting so edgy? Just because another person agreed with what I had to say and you started tripping? Its ok life is not fair, $hit happens. Try to live with it.
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Salman, what sort of an answer is that? What I said to TUMS is perfect logic according to yours and AQ's following of the deen by Quran and Sunnah. It's like AQ said, don't take part of the religion you have to take it all. At least I thought that was YOUR perspective, if it isn't please correct me.
Just answer the question don't worry about whether I need a chill pill or not thanks.
This is a scary thread. Is this defense of the Prophet internally directed, or does that apply to any who might have questions about his validity or general questions about his life?
Please I want to uderstand my Muslim brothers and sisters. But it sounds like even questioning, to some of you, could result in ones death. Am I wrong?
Thanks for your response. So are Muslims glad that other religions do not teach Jihad as part of their Doctrine?
I mean, it seems less likely that your sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers will be killed for disbelieving say Jesus, at least in this world. I hope this is not disrespect.
I would call myself a Christian. I know that there have been followers of the Christian faith that have done the equivalant of Jihad(IE. Holy Crusades), but this is not what Jesus teaches his followers to do. As a matter of fact he makes it clear that the definition of love is not being kind to your friends but to love your enemy.
Matthew 5:44-48
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
I try to live my life as such given by the example of my Lord. Therefore if you question my Lord and call him false. Which by the nature of being a Muslim you have, I am admonished to love you, not kill you.
