Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
I take it that USA is no longer the land of oppertunities!!!??!!!
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Excuse me. Please show me the posts you might have won the volvo thread but thats about it.
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Sure. In post #35 on this page, http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=181659&page=2&pp=30
Madhanee offered me your ass if I could show him a church built after Islamabad was. And I did.
Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
Awww Bloody Hell, I didnt know my ass was being auctioned off aur vo bhee ebay ishstyle.
Madhanee: In future before you start auctioning my ass on GS please let me know, so I cna check availability. I am a hot item and in demand not just on GS but other forums as well.
Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
Even in backwaters in the US it's not hard to stay in touch with your roots, if you want to. My husband plays cricket every weekend, and we have Urdu classes for the kids, and only about 50 pakistanis live around here. Americans are much more friendly that Britishers towards muslims, mostly just curious, if you are willing to talk and don't want to live in your own little ghetto. We lived 5 years in London, and would never move back. Also, we haven't had many probs with the no-fly lists, and we have the most common last name in the world.
The public schools are required to make a lot of religious concessions for kids. They have to let them take off for Eid day to worship, and provided my son and the other kids with a room to pray jummah. My oldest daughter is on the basketball team, and wears track bottoms, a baggy shirt, and hijab, with her jersey on top. If you are willing to talk to people and let them know what you need, they will accomodate you.
You can find something to moan about no matter where you live, but all in all, your situation is usually what you make of it.
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^ have you thought about becoming the GS administrator? or atleast a moderator...
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How often do you fly? Once a week? Twice?
A 22/yr old male is not wearing a hijab and playing basket ball with school girls.
Also, a family travelling together does’nt fit the “profile” of a supposed baddie.
Religious concessions you talk about are common in UK.
Let’s hear your opinions on the Real ID shall we? How do you feel about every Tom, Dick and Harry bureaucrat having access to your details? Your Social Security number? Passport #? Country and Date of Birth? Bank records?
Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
LI, what bank records? Most Muslims have no bank account because they are poor, and also it is Haraam to have a bank account.
But you don’t even live in the US or ever even traveled here. How come you think you are an expert? I guess this anti American rhetoric is probably in the weekly Khutbas you attend. The reason more Jihadis of Asian origin have originated in Britain is because they feel disfranchised there, and have been neglected by the society and turn towards some Molvi to feel wanted. That’s certainly not the case in the US. The only Jihadis you might come across in the US are recently arrived Jihadis with the intention of harming non-Muslims. But UK Jihadis are often 2nd generation born and raised unemployed trash. Little substance and lot of mouth.
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^^
You got that right.
Have another drink.
Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
Is that on you? Caz I am out of moola.
But LI please tell us why does every Brit Paki think so low of the US? I often ask myself this. Dundoo and I were discussing it a couple of days ago and left it to be continued.
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Enjoy.
*The lawsuit was filed this morning in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York on behalf of five American Muslim citizens who, along with dozens of other Muslims, were detained, interrogated, fingerprinted, and photographed at the Buffalo-Canadian border as they returned home from an annual Islamic conference in Toronto.
According to documents filed with the court, government officials violated the plaintiffs’ rights under the First and Fourth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution and under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Commissioner Robert C. Bonner, Buffalo Port Director Joseph J. Wilson, and CBP Director of Field Operation in Buffalo Michael D’Ambrosio are named in the lawsuit, which states in part: “None of the plaintiffs had engaged in any unlawful conduct nor any other conduct that would justify the mistreatment to which they were subjected but instead were subjected to this treatment solely because they had attended the conference.”
Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA
LI, there are dozen lawsuits that are filed every day in this country (it is not Saudi Arabia) and it was most probably filed by some US org too, and not some Mulla Org. so what exactly is your point?
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^^
In the land of the free, particpants to a religous conference got treated like criminals. That's the point.
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Well, if some pinheads didn’t take advantage of the hospitality by smashing planes into buildings, and talk about killing infidels, things wouldn’t have been like this. They made their bed, they should sleep in it now.
Let’s hear what you think of the UK anti-terror laws? Caz, they are worse than the US ones, if I am not mistaken.
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hassled? I mean they have to make a call to make sure that you are not the same dude they have on the watch list, most of the times it takes them 2 minutes to do so and they are very polite about it.
for internatinal travel, i have yet to be fingerprinted or photographed, and I am a US immigrant and Uk citizen. As someone who travels to Europe quite often for work, The only hassle I have is the long waiting line at immigration desks.
and yeah patriot act sucks and is idiotic, but then is not much different from similar laws they have in the UK mon ami.
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LI - My husband has green card, not citizenship and he travels quite a bit, usually they just check name and make sure papers are ok. His friend had a minor problem because he had the same name as someone on a watch list. They were polite and he had to wait an extra half an hour, but it was straightened out fairly quickly and he is not a citizen either.
How much travel in and out of American airports do you do? or is this more like a friend of a friend of an uncle of a sister's cousin's told me so it is gospel kind of thing?
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It's hard to find a place where you feel truly happy/settled, and if you've been lucky enough to find it so early in your life, I'd recommend you stay there. The US is evil, look what it did to poor Madhanee, he never used to be this bitter and twisted, honest!
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Sadi, I don't think that was US, maybe GS?