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Yes offcourse I don't know, but where did you see me claiming that dead can hear, see or feel anything. The people claim these things also don't know for a fact isn't it. It is what they believe. It gets tricky when people try to prove or justify the believe. There is no way you can do that.
If you believe in the begining somewhere in past,then how can you not believe in the end somewhere in the future. Using your method why is afterlife (if there is any afterall you cannot prove that as well) is perpetual. Common sense isn't it.
That is the very reason I said earlier where in the begining would you like to stop.
If you believe in the begining somewhere in past,then how can you not believe in the end somewhere in the future. Using your method why is afterlife (if there is any afterall you cannot prove that as well) is perpetual. Common sense isn't it.
That is the very reason I said earlier where in the begining would you like to stop.
Light bearer I wasnt targetting you, you know with that answer to your query of mine who I was targetting.
Everyone believes in some divine power whether directly or indirectly as one atheist was once heard saying, "I don not believe in any divine power, thanks GOD I am an atheist".
Everyone believes in some divine power whether directly or indirectly as one atheist was once heard saying, "I don not believe in any divine power, thanks GOD I am an atheist".
Regards.
its just like saying thanks, its an expression, are you that desperate that you gonna take a normal terminology used all over the world and make your point.
If you are, what are the reasons that you do not believe in Allah:swt:.. I would like to know for my understandings… Can you please, tell me indetails every bit of it why you think i tthat way [assuming that you are.. if you are not, accept my apologies…]
but i m not a good debater, i respect everyones opinion and i wish the same in return. i m at work now, but when i have free time I'll write a response to why i am an atheist.
thanks
**Anwaar Qureshi Sahab* when u'll have constant rejection and disoppointment in ur life and when u'll cross the barriers of patience while being a dedicated servent to allah then u'll find out wat an atheist is or why a person become atheist. cuz thats how i became one . *
Yes. I figured that is the always the very main reason. If you ask Quran to answer you for that then, there is plenty of what Quran has to tell us. It did tell me when I had same questions at one stage in my life.
Now the point is how much do we have the understanding of all this?
May be we consider ourselves superior to the prophet of Allah, Noah:as: who spent 950 years to get success but eventually only a handfull of people came with him… And his own son denied his message…
Or may be we are better than Ayoob:as: who spent his life in a sickness that no one would’ve wanted to come near to him…
Or yet may be we are higher in status than that of Yaqoob:as: who lost his son Yousuf:as: and became blind while crying for him?
Or perhaps Younus:as: spent many years in the belly of a whale and we are better that we can breath in open environment.
Mayhaps, we do not realize that these 60-70 years of life is created to test us when Allah says in Surah Mulk that He has created life and death so that he can test us who can steadfast and keep believing in Him.
Perhaps, we have thought that we will enter paradise without deserving it? May be we think that we are the owner of paradise .. hamaaraY baap kee jaageer hai?
Long time ago, I had connected these dots myself and then came to a conclusion… I stated it here… I humbly request all of those who are gone away from their Creator to please atleast read it… All of us need to recognize the Truth.. may be I need to do that too… May be, I am very immature in my imaan too.. who knows? Life is short but Life hearafter is not… If we understand that, we may solve the puzzle ourselves:
Exactly Life is short.....so why such long tests.... anyway nobody is trying to compare their self with prophets..... Its allah who is trying to compare us with prophets...he thinks we have the same qualities like prophets and expects us to follow the life like his beloved Prophets.....now u gonna question me that arent we suppose to follow the life of prophets....and in my answer i wuld say yeah we are then where are my share of miracles....hmmmm
Let me ask you if you ever had the similar trials that Prophets of Allah:swt: had???
what you claim to be a trial may only be something in life that you failed to achieve or you lost someone or something?
When our trials are not even equal to the prophets’ then no need to go further in the line… good that you know we ought to follow prophets… you solved the puzzle… Allah made lives of all these prophets as a role model for and put them together in the Book of guidance to guide us…
And if you are looking for same miracles, then you are missing two points:
you do have miracles… Quran was the miracle of Prophet:saw: and it is passed to his ummah.. you can really use it to bring satisfaction of heart in your life…
You do not know what is a miracle and why it is there to begin with… Miracle - refered to as Moa’jza in Arabic, means: something that makes others clueless to raise question about except calling it a magic… Miracles were given to prophets to guide their people to the right path so that the people realize the truth in the message…
It is quite illogical to ask for a miracle while going through a trial in life… you ask for the mercy of Allah:swt: and if you do not find the exit from the trial in this world, know that Allah:swt: knows better than you which is good for you… Life hereafter is where you will get the un-ending reward… Tell me, if you are still in that period of trial and test due to which you become atheist… If it is still there, is it with the same intensity? well you dun have to tell me… listen to your heart
Interesting* lecture**…but sorry to say once again its just theory…words or watever u wanna name it…*
*Prophets knew for a fact that watever they’ll go through is a task from Allah cuz eventually they’ll have a better life as they were told By allah that they are the chosen one…If Allah is gonna show up infront of me or send an angel and tell me that i’ll have a wonderful after life but i’m gonna have to bear the hardships of this life…Do u really think i’ll so no to such offer…ofcourse not.. i’ll even try to convience other to follow my religion and bear all the hardships of life…But the point is i’m a blind faith bliever or i was. * Like u said allah made life’s of prophets as a role model for us…tell me honestly… Is there any christian who can bring a dead person to life , is there any muslim who can split the moon in half, is there any jew who can talk to god … What kinda role models u r talkign about… do u really think i can make any such person a role model for my life who has the super natural powers… U mentioned miracle of Quran ,no doubt indeed its a miracle…but dont u think why this holy book is so complicated to understand…why god couln’t make it simple so tha we dont have to come up with hundreds of differnt meaning of one phrase… Its a miracle because its so complicated to understand… Now u gonna tell me its complicated for those who doesnt have faith…or if God has put a stamp on some one’ heart not to understand it then they would never… Then wats my fault. anyway its a long never ending discussion… i’m not trying to offend anybody…Just my quries Good day
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^ For example, the very fact that you have access to the computer and internet is a blessing itself. Millions of people in this world don’t have that. Lets start with the basics.
Do you have meals three times a day?
Do you get enought sleep at the night?
Do you have a roof for shelter?
Do you have a means for transportation?
Are you capable of feeding your family?
Have you had education as a student?
Do you get new clothes periodically?
Again, many people in the world are not fortunate enough to have the above and they don’t turn away from Allah. Are you blessed enough to have these?
Again, many people in the world are not fortunate enough to have the above and they don't turn away from Allah. Are you blessed enough to have these?
Wat it has got to do with being an atheist n blessings of God...... And why in the world i have to compare my self to those people who doesnt have the basic needs of life or watever,they are not looking at me to blame their fate then why i have to look at them to be thankful to god that i could have been one of them cuz i'm not complaining to God by looking some one better off than me.And howcome ur so sure about the beggers or the needy people or the homeless ppl that they still have good faith,no body knows cuz i know people who doesnt have faith but are scared to express it. *
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I have finished my writings on this matter it took me sometime to write down what I think about the matter, the only problem is the whole notes are too long. My only request if you choose to read, read the whole thing.
