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It's not like GEO & ARY were raining the pure truth to Dish antennas and cable networks ..... living in a supposedly free country and supposedly free media + wroking in TV-Production environment i can assure how much GEO+ARY can twist the truth ..... if CJ + his Honchos can get live coverage for driving throughout the country for what ..... free judiciary my a$$

When PPL like Aitzaaz Ahsan or others ask for burning down the SC if it doesn't deliver the verdict the PPL want .... Hello ?????!!!!!!

The truth is: Hamari qoam ko azaadi raas nahi ati

If PPL like BB and MN can be so popular amid being looters then one needs to ask itself if their supporter r any loyal to the country itself

Not that i'm a Mush supporter coz for what he doing right now can't be good for Pakistan

Honest PPL like Imran r beaten by Idiots who think to be the moral police of society .....

If u don't resoect the very basicc rights of PPL following a different school of thought (be it political/religious/economical) then expect this sort of ongoing

If u r looking for the Gulity u only need to look into the mirror

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Couldnt've said it better..

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Bhai, is it difficult to understand why GEO and ARY can't or don't want to shift their news centres to UK or USA?

Zara Sonchyea? :)

If they would move to UK or USA than they would have to fall into the regulation of UK and USA where if they lie, they could get into trouble and these channels of FIB love to lie without any ethics, morality and shame, as much as BB and NS love to lie, loot and plunder without any ethics, morality and shame :). Anyone can pay these channels their wages and they would bend upside down to please their paymasters in whatever way their paymasters would like. [Though channels can lie in UK and USA too, but these people want their dance of lies unrestricted].

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^ actually you're wrong about that. they're still under UK broadcasting regulations (Ofcom), the same that would regulate them here. thus the well known action of Ofcom against geo for violent images.

you're welcome to take any specific complaint you have against geo to them :)

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You are wrong. Ofcom can regulate any thing that breaks obvious UK laws while broadcasting in UK, but Ofcom would not investigate lies of foreign registered media that is nothing to do with UK.

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fair enough, can you give an example of any domestic lie that was investigated by Ofcom?

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*MUSHARRAF SHUTS DOWN GEO TV *

Pakistan's premier Urdu news channel, also seen round the world as the main source of news and current affairs, was shut down at 1 a.m. Pakistan time (12 midnight Dubai time) after President Pervez Musharraf put tremendous pressure to silence a media outlet which had refused to bow down to his dictates.

Informed sources said President Pervez Musharraf himself intervened to stop all GEO news transmissions from Dubai, after a two-week standoff in Pakistan during which all major news channels were shut down by cable operators, who are directly controlled by the Pakistani authorities.

The shutting down of the Geo News was universally condemned by almost every political party and member of the civil society minutes before the anchors, almost in tears, signed off.

PML-N leader Mian Nawaz Sharif told Dr. Shahid Masood on telephone from London it was a tragic moment in Pakistan's history as the Musharraf regime was bent upon destroying every symbol of free speech and democracy in the country.

Makhdoon Amin Faheem, the PPP Vice Chairman told Geo News, in its dying moments, that it would be a tragedy for the country and democracy if Geo went off the air, which it did minutes later.

Lt. General Talat Masood, Retired Chief Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqi and many others representing the civil society, who used to appear regular in Geo talk shows, expressed shock and disgust at the decision to shut of Geo TV.

Popular news anchors came on Geo News around midnight Pakistan time to announce that their channel had been ordered to go off the air as result of the continued deadlock between the Pakistani authorities and the media channels, following the imposition of the emergency in the country.

In Pakistan all GEO channels were blocked by the military regime after the imposition of the emergency but on Friday two main channels, DAWN News and AAJ were back on air, with AAJ announcing that two its most popular talks shows, hosted by Talat Hussain, Nusrat Javeed and Mushtaq Mihas, were suspended temporarily.

Geo News was shut down because it had refused to budge. After six years of objective and highly professional telecasts, which earned the channel the honour of being the most popular TV channel, the Government of Pakistan put it off the air on Nov 4 after emergency was imposed.

Geo News was under pressure from day one. The government tried to bring it down but the channel became a household name in Pakistan and abroad and was declared by the international observers as the most watched and popular TV channel.

Its role in the judicial crisis, which started on March 9, when the President filed a reference against the Chief Justice, was highly applauded, domestically and internationally.

Geo kept the whole world informed about the developments regarding the events unfolding during the struggle of people of Pakistan for restoration of dignity of the judiciary through its objective reporting by giving all points of view. The programmes, talks shows and commentaries produced by Geo created an impact and awareness among the people.

Sources said the government first asked the Geo administration to stop the most popular programmes of popular TV hosts Dr. Shahid Masood, Hamid Mir and Kamran Khan without offering any tangible reason why they should be stopped.

After the success of the Chief Justice campaign all private news channels were banned from telecasting live programmes and filming outside the studios.

The media workers protested against the move and the government had to accept the demands of the media workers. The shows were allowed to continue but live coverage was banned.

In the meanwhile General Pervez Musharraf kept on resorting to pressure tactics and the Geo channels revenue sources were targeted.

Under his orders all government advertisements were not only stopped but other commercial advertisers were also pressurized not to give business to Geo. The channel withstood all the pressures and suffered huge losses. A statement submitted in the Sindh High Court on Friday said almost Rs1 billion was lost by the channel.

After the emergency General Musharraf banned Geo and other channels inside Pakistan. Geo stood the pressure and refused to sign on the dotted line.

The sources pointed out that the government under General Pervez Musharraf enhanced its pressure on the media to regulate itself under the command of the administration after the clamping of emergency.

The media was strangulated through an ordinance that placed restrictions on its freedom that had no precedent. It was virtually made impossible to carry on free journalism in the country in the presence of the said ordinance.

A so-called code of conduct was thrust upon the media to follow without any consultations with the journalist community. Private channels were asked to sign an undertaking that would have made the channels subservient to the authorities.

This was done after suspending all private channels of the country and the channel administrations were asked to accept the conditions and sign the document of undertaking.

They were told to accept provisional licences instead of the permanent ones they had. The earlier licences were cancelled through the same order.

The sources said that General Pervez Musharraf asked the channels to stop their current affairs programmes, which were not acceptable to him and demanded that anchorpersons should be fired.

The channels who signed the document were restored on the cable. Some channels accepted the official advice while others refused to follow.

Geo declined to oblige General Pervez Musharraf as the demands included cooperation on all points which the new caretaker government would bring up.

It was demanded that Geo should stop the objectionable current affairs programmes and toe the official line.

The authorities wanted that the channel should cooperate with President General Pervez Musharraf.

The channel was further asked to submit all its programmes for monitoring by government officials, as no programme without clearance would be aired.

The sources said that Geo was first forbidden in Pakistan through cable not brought under pressure through the authorities concerned of the country from where it was being aired.

The channel was being seen at some places in the country through dish antennas and Internet but the government's technical experts first tried to stop it on the Internet and then a ban was placed on the import of dish antenna and relevant equipment used for receiving direct satellite signals.

The authorities in the host country had to ask the Geo News to stop its telecast from their up-linking station under excruciating pressure coming from the Government of Pakistan without considering its long-term adverse impact on the image of the host country.

The authorities concerned while conveying the message of the Pakistan Government to close down the channel, ridiculed the decision as they had no experience of facing such a demand which was contrary to all norms of decency and business in the modern time business culture, the sources revealed.

Geo's voice was silenced by General Pervez Musharraf as its anchors, almost in tears, bid farewell to its viewers and listeners.

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In UK, media is regulated and government body sees that no one lies in media. Punishment is heavy. If any one in media publishes lies in UK or defame others, the person can sue the media, and British government would help the victim. There are many cases in UK where a person sued media for defamation (most of defamations are related to lies), and with the help of government and justice system, won the cases in court with heavy compensation.

What Pakistan government is asking these media (GEO and ARY) is to sign defamation laws that they have recently enacted, that would make heavy punishment for defamation. Today, there is almost no punishment for defamation in Pakistan (it is punishment by name only). Media considers that heavy punishment for defamation is wrong, as it means to them that government is curbing criticism. Though what they are claiming is wrong, as defamation means, to defame someone using lies, or by infringing someone personal life using illegal means, but media do not want to get punished heavily because of their lies and defamation of others.

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There is a difference between media being sued (court action) and the regulatory authority determining what is kosher news. give me an example of Ofcom investigating a "lie".

you say the punishment is heavy, give me an example of OFCOM (not the courts) levying a heavy punishment for a lie.

rahi baat courts ki, we already have more or less the same laws of libel that UK has. the punishment may be different, but thats a second step, why hasnt anyone even tried to prove defamation?

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Offcom would never investigate or penalise a media organsiation for being critical of the govt. The big difference is that Blair was mauled and virtually lynched by the media on the Iraq issue but they were no taken off the air nor were they asked to sign agreements whereby criticising the head of state is a treason. Who the hell does Musharraf think he is, a failed Kargil commando. Yeh hai uss kee auqat.

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Yup, some good points.

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Off course. The media in the West knows the difference between criticizing the government vs. supporting terrorism.

It was utterly treasonous how media covered lal masjid. They made it as anti-national circus where any Mullah, Tom, Dick and harry could start raving and ranting against the law enforcement agencies.

We lost our precious soldiers defending our way of life, and yet media kept on relaying live interviews of our enemies.

I don't know where you live mr. No Western country would ever allow live interviews of the enemies of state. Only in Pakistan we have these 2-bit intellectuals who feel that nobody not even God can tell them how to behave.

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Brother, please read and then make comments. Do you know the biggest problem amongst Pakistanis? They do not read, and even if they read by any chance, they do not want to understand.

If you tell talk to them about bird and they would think that you are talking about fish, whatever you say, they will quote fish. Even when you tell them that bird is not fish, they would laugh and still keep calling fish.

Same way when government suspended Iftikhar, media kept calling that suspension as sacking. Not only that, many Pakistanis also kept calling that sacking. Now they should know what sacking is, what happened to Iftikhar on 3rd November.

Now when Government is saying that they do not care if any one criticizes, rather they are telling media to keep criticizing and it is best that they criticizing constructively, people are not listening but assuming what they would like to listen or what corrupt media is feeding to them wrongly.

Please try to understand the difference in meaning of criticizing and defamation. From reporting truth and reporting lies about others.

What government is saying is that they want to make defamation law strict and would only allow media to broadcast defamation, and would only allow those media to broadcast in Pakistan that agrees with new Pakistani defamation law that have heavy penalty for those that defame others. Now as before, media as well as people are calling law against defamation as law against criticism.

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Every other Mushy supporter says the same ghisi piti line as if they are not a part of the kaum!!!

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I think I would be wasting my breath and time in replying to your post, as you have not understood anything that I wrote earlier on. You are supporting Mushy just for the sake of supporting him, whereas my support is conditional upon someone doing a good job. If Mushy cannot take the heat then he should get out of the kitchen.*

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UK does this, US does this, in UK this, in US this.... do you know in both these countries military does not over throw civlian governments? or is it that you only want to compare institutions of your liking?

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still looking for positives to this ban? the only one i can think of is that we wont have our honourable ministers coming on air and shouting 'big arm in the family, big arm in the family'

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Mushy is a public servant and he should act like one, which means acting within the law and putting the interests of the public first. By imposing Martial Law to safeguard his 'kursi' he has committed treason against the country.

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Strange things happen in the land of the pure, stranger things happen closer to the land that is most pure (read holy Arabia upon oil wells).

If we start fairly distributing the blame, all sides concerned will receive titanic goody bags at the end of the party.

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wow nicely said.