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bhai mere, they may or may not be lying, but to curb the lies we have judicial system, or is it that we don't believe in justice and instead we want illegitimate* danda *to be used for every problem? People complain about Geo lying when reporting emergency that military entered SC as a "ticker" but it was also showing the reporter denying it on the very same screen, this is called confusion and chaos not necessarily exaggerating and lying.

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The truth is: Hamari qoam ko azaadi raas nahi ati
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char din ki chandni phir andheri raat... it was new-found 'azaadi' and it was bound to happen, if media was made independent without any control in any other country worse would've happened.

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If PPL like BB and MN can be so popular amid being looters then one needs to ask itself if their supporter r any loyal to the country itself
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Honestly, we keep blaming jihadis and jihadi supporters for using twisted logics to support their cause but the truth is the use of twisted logic is present in all these political parties. When we start justifying an action with twisted logics then this is what we get, blind support.

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babe think about this, if Geo is such a loving cradle for its employees and the alleged Geo-family, shouldn't they have been more responsible thinking about the jobs, incomes, livelihoods and careers when they received pressure from the govt which is after all the govt and will have its way like every other democratic or non democratic govt of the world and yet refused to budge, understand the situation and secure the organizations survival!? What were they trying to portray? What role were they trying to play? They are a media organization, why are they playing revolutionary/king-maker/reformer etc of sorts, that too only for areas that benefit them directly? Surely they were delusional about their worth. Maybe the employees and those affected should protests against Geo for being an irresponsible organization lead by short-sighted, self-centered, deluded, over ambitious, biased, politically motivated and inept directors, who sank the entire ship to prove something they have no business meddling into?
Who were Geo and ARY to take on the govt when all other channels accepted the govt decisions? And no they're not revolutionaries, revolutionaries treat rulers and opposition alike. Freedom of media is one thing, misusing it another, defying govt orders still another and having delusions of greandeur still another.
Would BBC/CNN or other networks ever take on their govts decisions like this and become a political organization?

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well i kinda agree wid u i had the same thoughts in my mind that GEO should have been more responsible they could atleast for the sake of their employees and their channel appologize to the govt well wotever the party is employees r the ones being affected and i didnt take GEO's side i didnt say GEO did well but neither did Mushy uncle do the rite thing!!

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So are you saying that they should not have opposed the dictator, toe his line and told the world that he is a wonderful person despite his despicable acts. GEO is just bringing the reality to the people. Ask the dictator to walk down any street of Pakistan alone on his own and he will be dead within 2 minutes. That is how much the people of Pakistan love him, his 95% rigged election not withstanding.

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I think Geo employees got stuck in middle of a cross-fire unfortunately, Mushy needed to save his behind and Geo wanted to stick to the license agreement they got few years back. If govt was sincere in ridding of liar journalists, controlling anti-state journalism he could've done it using laws and courts but then how can we expect someone to go legal route when his starting (and continuation) is all illegal, he has proved time and again that he is dictator and he wants to go things his way.

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shouldn't they have been more responsible thinking about the jobs, incomes, livelihoods and careers when they received pressure from the govt which is after all the govt
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In essence you are saying that everyone should bow to the pressure of dictators but when we look at Iraq we condemn everyone for not rising against dictatorship. How do people think of rising against dictatorships, by bowing to their rules?

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UAE closes two Pakistan news channels
Submitted by Tarique on Sat, 11/17/2007 - 18:27. Muslim World News
By DPA

Islamabad : Two major private Pakistani news channels said Saturday the authorities in Dubai had closed down their operations, apparently following pressure from Islamabad.

The Geo and ARY television networks, which beam their programmes from ground stations based in Dubai (part of the United Arab Emirates), were asked by local officials to suspend their transmissions by midnight Friday.

The UAE government did not give any reason for the closure but the administrations of both channels were sure the measure was taken after pressure from the government of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.

Musharraf has imposed severe curbs on the media since he proclaimed state of emergency this month.

“We know that the UAE is a kingdom and it was not very difficult for the Pakistani government to convince them of the action,” said a senior journalist from Geo news channel, Kamran Khan.

He said the UAE has a great financial interest in Pakistan since it has made heavy investments in the country and said this may be one of the reasons the UAE would succumb to the pressure.

Almost all private news channels in Pakistan were taken off the air few hours before Musharraf imposed emergency rule Nov 3, prompting the biggest news blackout in the country.

The news-hungry public turned to satellite dish for the alternative source but the government banned their sale and import.

Journalists have held countrywide protest rallies against the media restrictions for the last two weeks, forcing the government to restore the transmissions of at least some of the foreign and local news channels.

But Geo and ARY remained banned as their administration refused to close down some of the debate shows and sack the news anchors Musharraf regime believed were levelling heavy criticism on the government.

http://www.indianmuslims.info/news/2007/nov/17/uae_closes_two_pakistan_news_channels.html

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Geo sent suicide bombers, while Mr. Masood was leading them to the target zone on Mullah Radio. He is a threat to national security after all, upar se he declared fatwa on Musharraf.
And makes people die on sunny days.

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Masood was a threat to Musharraf, Fazlullah is a threat to Pakistan, so in the eyes of the dictator Masood is the real terrorist and had to be dealt with. Fazlullah is only a threat to Pakistan so he can wait.

As for Dubai agreeing to his request to shut down these channels, it is simple, if one totalitarian, autocratic and dictatorial regime does not help the other than who will. Both go hand in hand.

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its not safeguarding his kursi,, its safe guarding his life..
Musharaaf will never want to quit his office.. Cause he knows that the day he is under **Normal Security Protocol, **he will be killed instantly by his friends known as jihadis...

Its only his highest priority and security cell which is keeping him safe.. else if he is not an army chief or president of Pakistan, he will only get the protocol of CJ or even less. which we all know is some mediocre policemen in a mobile van.

I am sure Musharaf will be signing his immigration paper with John Negroponte for safe asylum soon.

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sniff sniff, such a crying shame. NOT

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Sorry Saleem, but I wont be able to re-write everything I had written just 30 mins before. For any strange reason, It was deleted by myself. I clicked on the wrong button. I had written almost 1 Page full.
Apologize.
However I am happy to see you also disagreeing with Musharraf. But what worries me is, whenever there is some disagreement most of us will think It has happened once so just get over It. Never realizing it can happen again and again. And even If, they still try to cover up by ignoring it. Sad, Isn't it?
The way Musharraf has used martial law and misused his military and western alliances approach, he has put his own nation under threat rather then going the diplomatic way and stable the given freedom in his country. A PAK nation is no more Pak, while once again a Dictator is responsible for na-pak actions.

The criticsm on Musharraf has follown short. And this tyrannic move by killing free media, mentioned in this very thread as let me no choice then to believe he is no more after Mullahs and militants, but for his kursi. He wants to secure his leadership first, before anything.

He might been a very sincer Army Chief, but is no longer sincer as President of Pak. He has done greats, but don't forget the most worst parts of his regime.

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As if Masood is Mosaad.

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^LOL

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:cb:

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I wish the journalists at ARY and GEO had been more willing to negotiate. How many jobs must have been lost??

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^ negotiate on the basis of what?

and for jobs...miss this is the right time to show strong belive/faith they have on ALLAH SWT!

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What was there to be negotiate on? Deal or no deal was never the case. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. And there is no negotiation with Terrorists.

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Even after all this mess, I hope that GEO And ARY are able to broadcast their news programmes in near future. But I just dont see how is it possible while Mushrraf is in charge. as both parties will not see or talk to each other anymore.

one of my cousins works in geo news room in dubai and he told me that people were crying during last moments, not because of their fear of their jobs but for the love of geo tv and the ultimate proud they feel in their jobs.

Since emergency has been announced, we have not witnessed any major success in militancy bit but only heavy crackdown on media and protestors. Musharraf claims he is introducing real democracy and free media but I am afraid he is not leaving behind a legacy to remember. I hope these days are over soon and we see mushrraf fulfill all his promises. (uniform, democracy, media, judiciary) as frankly none is in sight.

All the good work Musharraf did, is down the drain. Sad but true.

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^ That's the thing. I don't know whether they're making any real headway in Swat. Which is an embarrassment no one wants shown on television.