ARY and GEO shut down [merged]

Re: War on Free Media by dark forces of Mush Dictatorship and \"enlightened moderatio

The much needed NS Propaganda in early 1941 adopted here by Musharraf. Dictator show us the way to self destruction.

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-support geo
-watch news

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musharraf meant to say he's fighting a war of terror.
and yah what happend to the culprits behind Karachi bombings? any any names? who did it? did they get em yet? it's been a month.. or Geo stopped mush from nabbing them?

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Did they do it within law or was their action illegal?

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geo will be broadcasting everythin else except for news and the debates that they used to have…sad…i really used to enjoy Capital talk with hamid mir… damn…ill miss it :frowning:

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On ZeeTV I just heard interview of one of hosts can't recall his name but he said that he along with Shahid Masood and other alleged hosts offered Jang to resign if that could save the Geo channel but management didn't accept that offer.

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I don't get it.

We're getting the channels here in the States still - they're on right now.

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the entertainment part will stay on...just no more news, no more talk-shows, etc..etc...
basically no current event stuff.

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This is what you can expect now.


http://nation.com.pk/daily/nov-2007/16/index.php

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Brother, if I come across propaganda of Musharraf, that I feel is really propaganda, than you can bet on it that I won’t support that. Actually, leave propaganda, I do not support many things that Musharraf has done or doing. Anyhow, I do not think that Musharraf is doing any propaganda (that is my opinion).

For instance, I do not approve of NRO and I wrote very critical letter published in ‘Jang VF’ regarding NRO and criticized Musharraf on this issue. I do not approve Musharraf letting NS go to Saudi Arabia. I do not agree that Musharraf government negotiate with Mullah Brigades (retarded Talibans) as I believe they are spreading ‘Fitna’ in Pakistan and spreading Shatanism in the name of Islam. Well, there are many things, but then people are different and think differently, so even if I do not support, I accept his right because he is President of Pakistan and not me :).

Anyhow, I support Musharraf because I do not think that he is corrupt and I do not think that whatever he does, he has any bad intention for Pakistan. I feel he is committed to Pakistan and to the well being of Pakistan.

As for GEO and ARY, I always liked their programs, and appreciated their hard work. But I do not like blatant lies, lies that one can easily see, and can realise that their lies are intentional that can harm Pakistan. I feel that since March CJ case, both channels (ARY and GEO) started competing with each other in lying blatantly. For me, Newbie mistakes ‘YES’, inexperience ‘YES’, silly mistakes ‘YES’, differences of opinion ‘YES’, difference of views ‘YES’ unintentional lies ‘YES’ but intentional lies ‘NO’ (to me, intentional lies are lies that are obvious and blatant).

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NOw I'll give you the answer:

Coz you are blindly backing Musharraf on all his actions, no matter what their impact maybe.
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No, I do not back Musharraf blindly. I mentioned many places above where I do not believe what Musharraf has done or doing is right. Do not think that I don’t care about Pakistan as that is more important to me than Musharraf, but I believe that what he is doing, not all but most of that is right for Pakistan. Actually, I have lot of personal stakes in Pakistan to worry about Pakistan economy and well being.

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Musharraf lied the day he had his speech (on the very first day of emergency), Musharraf lied when he said he will have fast results on the KHI bombings on the very day BB arrived, Musharraf lied when he said he will not allow anarchy to take over his country, Musharraf lied when he said he is fighting a war on terror, Musharraf lies as soon as he opens his mouth.
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You think that he lied, but I believe that whatever he promised he intended, he did not lied, he tried, but some he fulfilled and some he could not. That happens with everyone. A person can try his best but one cannot guarantee success in everything. To me, Musharraf tried many things, many he succeeded and some he failed.

Another thing is that, when one promises something but could not fulfill that, it does not automatically means that one lied. A promise is made taking into account prevailing circumstances, but circumstances changes and that can affect fulfilling promises. If I have 100 poundd in my pocket, I might promise my friends that I will buy them dinner, but suppose I dropped the money or lost that somewhere, than I would not be able to fulfill my promise, than that does not mean that my promise was lie. Whatever Musharraf promised and could not fulfill, the reason was change in circumstances and not lie. One can call a thing lie if one says something that is untrue and the person knows that, or what a person says untrue that one can easily find out from situation one is surrounded.

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Mr Masood lied, how many times?
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Mr Masood did not just lie but at occasions he was lying intentionally. He was misguiding his audience. He was misusing trust knowingly that many had on him. You may say that how can I say he was lying intentionally? Well, there are many reasons. One of his lies I mentioned earlier, that his saying that CJ was sacked was lying, as he should know the difference between sacking and suspending (actually, that was the moment first time I noticed his lies were intentional, because in past I use to think that when he lies, it is unintentional, and it was due to misunderstanding the subject.

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Maybe, Its not even on how many lies have been told. It's about, who can (now) save our country from more disaster. Certainly not him any more, with his weakenend support from the West. I'll call for NEXT!
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Well, that I can accept as difference of opinion. I think that amongst all available obvious personalities, Musharraf is best bet. To me, he is committed, intelligent, as well as has support of army for strength within country and has support from many amongst civilian population too. Last time when I went to Pakistan, I found that many amongst poor not only trusted him but were trying to convince me that he is good for the country. I found more poor, lower middle and middle class pro-Musharraf in Pakistan then rich.

As for support from west, I do not think that he has lost that support, but even if he has, I won’t care, as today Pakistan is not what it was during any past period (from 1947 to 1999), when Pakistan was a bankrupt country or country on verge of bankruptcy. Today, Pakistan is growing fast and has enough foreign exchange reserves to counter any misfortune, and thus Pakistan can easily survive any foreign pressure, rather can even continue progress regardless of there is no support from west.

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I agree with that. I can't wait for the day when Mushrraf is booted out of the office and hang in public.

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Indeed.

I can't understand why Geo and ARY can't shift their news centres to the UK or USA? Presumably they can't play the martyr card from there?

As it is, it seems by still running their non-news content from Dubai, it effectively means they have indeed compromised more than the likes of Aaj or Dawn who are allowed to at least broadcast their news channels in Pakistan. If they had moved their HQ's to the west and continued their news channels as well, then they would have not actually been compromising.

Re: War on Free Media by dark forces of Mush Dictatorship and \"enlightened moderatio

I agree.

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Damnnn just cuz of not standing the free media! Mushy uncle didnt think of thousands of Pakistani's surviving on income frm GEO!!! its very frustrating to ppl like us who have family/frnds/relatives working with geo and have their jobs in a horrible uncertain situation!!

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Welcome to Musharraf's world where only one thing matters - KURSI. If he can put the very survival of Pakistan at risk to save his kursi what is a few thousand jobs. Pathetic dictator to the core. besharam Insaan.

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^^ :( pata nahi wot else we will hafto bear

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i wasnt very sure if i'd find people on here who'd still be supporting the recent events in Pakistan, the latest of which is the closure of news channels from overseas...but GS has always had the variety

shutdown of Geo News & ARY Oneworld from Dubai is very sad indeed...Musharraf coudn't have stooped lower..

I hope and pray that the people of Pakistan are able to see these channels again in the future InshaAllah

and the reasons being given by people here in support of the above.. DR Masood lies?? yellow journalism?? turning people against government?? not showing responsibility?? cant move to the west??

SIGH

May Allah help Muslims, Pakistan and Geo!

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That is why muslims are in the state they are. We will support the wrong doings of our beloved leaders and support them blindly even to the detriment of the well being of our country. Yup that's us.

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i think geo-ary should have had a studio in uk so if anything like this happened they could use it but then again i think it would cost alot for everything.......and yeh gov just didnt think how much loss geo would hve to face ...like theyve made a huge loss frm not showin cricket match and now wht about the people that work in geo..what about their jobs?hope they'll find new jobs ..this is just ridicules.
yesterday on dm digital liquat goes geo can use one of his channel to continue their transmission....i dont hink geo would do that though.......
i think musharaf did this coz he knew geo/ary would show the truth about whats happening,i mean when benazir does her speech and stuff there are her followers but musharaf doesn't want people to see that others have support .....

inshallah geo will come back soon...!geo shouldnt listen to gov ,and they should stick up for whats right!geo aur jenay do!
i inshallah ary will come back aswell!

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Sorry to hear that. I hope people who were working for GEO and ARY will be able to find new jobs.