Army Soldiers Refusing to Fight Talibans- A New Development

Re: Army Soldiers Refusing to Fight Talibans- A New Development

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Why do people start getting personal, and start accusing and insulting each other, is this the level of patients we have? and we are trying to deal with taliban.
An Indian person at my university once said, where ever u leave 2 pakistanis they start arguing and boasting that they are right. I disagreed with the person at that time, but after joining these forums i can see that the indian person was right.
Dont spoil a healthy discussion plz guys be polite.

to the go through these articles, and you may find some clues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/world/asia/06islamabad.html?ref=asia

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Neither US won nor lost Vietnam War However millions innocent men, women, old and children were perished in that ugly war when US used most modern weaponry of the time. US used napalm bombs and yellow agent and carpet bombing with B52 on villages of Vietnam. The major purpose of this war was to contain Communism in South-East Asia rather than winning the war. Morally US lost the war because purpose of the war was not served at all and which resulted death of 63000 deaths of US soldiers. Look things in proper perspective rather than offering retard comments like tail in legs........

Riffat Hussain is quite a right-winger, isn't he? (like the other folks at QAU dept of defence studies). Even though what he is saying is not unlikely, this kind of report of army not fighting because of the soldiers not wanting to (with the assumption that the generals want to fight, which is total baloney) serves the right-wing propaganda quite well and should be taken with a grain of salt.

The generals don't want to fight either, I would like to see a report from QAU dept of defence studies about THAT.

Can we say that when civilians die in suicide attacks? Its a war, and people die.

Is a civilian life in Northern areas cheaper than the urban cities?

Appreciate your reply, i also think another purpose of the war was to experiment weapon u mentioned above.

Let me clear up some of your facts.....

It wasn't yellow agent...it was Agent Orange...a controversial pesticide to destroy jungle growth to reveal Vietcong positions

It was not 63,000 deaths, it was 58,000

I wasn't talking about Indian, but American soldiers.

We all know you don't have the balls to say that to an American soldier, and that's a fact.

Are you suggesting shout at American soldiers who are serving in army and served in Iraq/Afghanistan or soldiers who refused to participate in these wars?

Leme correct it further. Two more guys died on their way to Hospital So , the correct figure is ..........58000+ 2 = 58,002

Please be reminded that my thread has nothing to do with Vietnam war.

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Re: Army Soldiers Refusing to Fight Talibans- A New Development

Some people have made my thread look childish now . Quarelling about whether it were 58,000 or 63000 casualities in veitnam war.

P.s Meceneray2k : Can you please open a separate thread on Vietnam war and not confuse it with my thread

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Re: Army Soldiers Refusing to Fight Talibans- A New Development

^^ I was not the one who brought in Vietnam into this thread...it was your friend, Salayduhin Ayubbi...

and the problem was he did not know anything about Vietnam....he just thought everyone else had the same amount of knowledge on Vietnam as he did....but he forgot who he was dealing with, me :)

The Millions of displaced and dead in the tribal areas are to be counted among Mercenaries Pakistani dead. They are as much the victim of these terrorists as anyone else in Pakistan.
Its not govt bombing, its Taliban terrorism. Dont confuse the disease for the treatment.

No, and there no moral equivalency here, either. On the one side you have bunch of terrorist thugs who are trying to destroy county, and overthrow the govt and other side you have army. So, there is no moral equivalency in terrorists blowing up girls schools, masjids, & army trying to eliminate terrorists.

You only see what you want to see. I have plenty of Indian colleagues who constantly argue with each other over small issues.

Re: Army Soldiers Refusing to Fight Talibans- A New Development

Any coward refusing to fight should be executed. The soviets had men behind troops on the German front to kill deserters. We are a laughing stock as a people now, the qaum is willingly bending over for the Taliban!

Is the Pakistani populace that brain washed that they think Taliban rule is desirable?

Each day those sob's encroach upon more of the land of Pakistan, and our faggot government and compromised army sit around. Someone should put lipstick on them and give them bangles!

I certainly dont want to see my fellow nationals arguing. Indians, american, British may argue even more than pakistanis, but i was certainly surprised to see the level of immaturity after joining these forums.