Are you career oriented/professional girls willing to marry down?

Because a lot of times, the reason for no marriage is that no ‘suitable’ guy is available. ‘Suitablity’ usually includes level of education (must be equal or higher) and job/income (must be equal or higher).

If you girls consider lower guys, wouldn’t the pool be bigger?

Just curious.

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But why would a girl consider , in your words, a lower guy? If being a girl she could study so much, get a good degree, and find a good job, why cant guys do the same?

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^ I am open to marrying down but this is what gets me usually. When I hear the guy’s stories about goofing off throughout his 20’s and now he is managing his dad’s gas station, my level of respect for the guy falls.

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And I think we girls want our husbands to be more educated or at least as educated as we are. Don;t know the logic behind this though.

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all of you girls should put your educations in your signature. It will help a lot of guppies

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Ya girls, lower your requirments… look where have you thrown poor guyz into…
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^I think guys should lower their requirements too.

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If you value education, you will not only have pursued it yourself but it’s also logical to seek that in a potential partner as well. I personally would not be okay with someone less educated than I am or in a “lower” profession. For me, a lack of education is a sign of a lack of ambition, I don’t want a lazy man who’s been raised off his parents money and definitely don’t want to be the sole provider. My career requires over 8 years of education and someone who’s equally educated, at the very least, will understand me better and support my ambitions as well. Not to mention, it’s easier to mentally connect with people who are educated (although, not always the case–I’ve seen plenty of educated guys whose maturity levels are lightyears behind).

I also think men have ego problems and will get intimidated and develop inferiority complexes if their wives are more successful than them.

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I can only answer from a British guy’s perspective. Girls are outperforming boys in education here - one of the main reasons for this is that decades ago, when the trend was reversed, government bought about sweeping reforms to the education system to improve girls performance, such as the introduction of soft sissy subjects, which were given equal merit and weighting to the traditional subjects that boys excelled in as well introducing coursework elements and structuring exams heavily weighted with open ended questions. Now that girls are outperforming boys, no government is tackling this issue with the same level of urgency as they attacked the issue of decades prior of female under-performance.

This nakhra of not marrying a guy who is less educated etc. is partly why there is a muslim spinster crisis here in the uk. Guys just go back home to bring a biwi (becasue they can’t be asked to deal with brit paki girls and their nakhra) whilst girls of a similar age aren’t prepared to import a groom. I know from first hand experience from my phupos who didn’t marry for this specific reason until their mid thirties, when they had to compromise. They had nakhra because of their careers, their doubles masters, their good looks (they can still be easily mistaken for being persian/iranian) etc. In they end they compromised and married bald kalus with pot bellies.

Moral of the story - cut the nakhra out!

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I think it’s fair to want an equally educated partner if yourself spent years in getting an education, what’s wrong is considering the guy “lower than you” because he is not as educated or thinking that you are marrying “down”. Your education is rendered useless if you can’t be humble. Sorry. Brutal truth. Education does not equal knowledge. I would much rather be with someone who is thirsty for knowledge and who has a sense of wonder.

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Or just marry someone of a different race/ethnicity :@:

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That too, but i think other ethnicity guy wouldn’t get selected on the same criteria mentioned in OP>

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Honestly, looking back the guys who are easiest to talk to, laugh with, and enjoy time with are the dudes who AREN’T THAT educated. Shoot me for saying this, but I’ll take a relaxed guy with a job in finance, consulting, IT business, legal something or the other that requires him to SOCIALIZE regularly, and where he has developed a level of charm. Charming, fun, a guy with a nice smile - I can manage that.

Every time I see that they’re an MD, I cringe. Because I know I’m going to get an elitist, snobby jerk. I’d like to think that all docs out there are geeks like me who started with nothing, but it’s not the case. A lot of folks come from doctor pedigrees, or from very rich families that were able to afford this kind of education for their kids.

Meanwhile, have met A LOT of super nice guys whose jobs are more mediocre, but the guy is just really into it. In fact, I’m ok with a small business owner even. As long as the guy knows how to read, knows how to write properly in English (text messages written like a 3rd grader - turn off!!!), and can have a conversation - that’s important.

Best dates I ever went on - the dudes did not have their *** together at the age I did. Maybe because of that, they’re easier to talk to.

If anyone knows of a dude who didn’t have their crap together at 22, but as long as he knows good English, let me know!! I’m open to it.

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Instead of making these excuses why can’t you guys work harder? Those guys who want to study are still studying and working hard and getting good jobs.
I wont say your phuppo had nakhras, she just had bad luck. Why would a beautiful, double masters holder want to marry down?

So guys please make efforts instead of intimidating us with the stories of fat, bald husbands.

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Yeah, I don’t see the point of sticking to any particular race when you’re living in a multicultural country. Plenty of eligible Muslims out there.

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Actually it was two of my phupos and trust me, they had nakhra. THe guys that they wanted had even more nakhra then them (elitist/rich guys).

As far as making excuses, this is the reality in the UK (although this reality doesn’t apply to me! lol). Alot of my old school friends (guys I literally grew up with) who get looked down upon simply because they never read a book or two and passed a couple of exams, lol.

Surely here in the UK, when girls were being outperformed by boys, girls should have rolled up their sleeves and women shouldn’t have expected government to make sweeping reforms to the education system to help them.

Look, guys need to work harder, absolutely, I agree with you. However governments should help guys, particularly here in the UK. If they are underperforming, why are they underperforming and what can be done to help them?

My phupos saw hundreds of rishtas - to short, to fat, looked at me the wrong way, to many sisters, MIL is to chalak, guy’s to introverted etc etc. Whilst I feel one has the right to not marry down so to speak, a little bit of compromise is required. Guys my phupos turned down in their twenties are the same guys they were begging for once they hit their mid thirties. They never snapped out of it until my dad got angry with them and told them to snap out of it and reminded them they have no father and asked them what they would do when god forbid anything happened to him. I know the girls will say, well they had careers etc, they would have been fine, but sometimes you need your own family and kids. My sister on the other hand, is totally different, literally the seond rishta that was available for her, she accepted (although the guy is pretty well educated and makes a very good salary, plus none of the sasu amma drama).

I’ve recently had cousins who have married guys not established or with numerous sisters to be married off without a father etc. Sometimes you need to look where you could potentially be 10 years from now. One of my khalas married a guy who’s visa literally running out, they did no walima, didn’t have money for a home etc. We helped them out for a year, by which time the guy established himself and now he brings home £80K basic a month before bonus (15 odd years later). Sometimes you got to take a chance!

As far as intimidating you, nothing could be further from the truth. I am merely give my two cents and experiences from within my own family. I have a phupo’s daughter who has literally rejected hundreds of rishtas and now she is early thirties they are in panick mode, guys she rejected are happily married with kids to educated, pretty “suljihuwi” bahu types. The guys they see now have the nakhra, they want girls in their twenties. I agree that a person should know their self worth (this is badabing you’re talking to!) but humbling yourself sometimes is a requirement and indeed a necceisty.

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i agree with what you’ve said, especially the bit about boys underperforming.. not sure if you’re exempt from that though cringes at grammar :disgust: :stuck_out_tongue:

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That’s your lot, you’re lucky I’m not typing in text speak! I actually studied English Language A-level, go figure.

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Just wondering. Is it harder to type in normal English than to purposely screw up words?

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lol, I was on my phone typing with one hand and eating a chicken wrap in the other! Cut a paki brother some slack!