Re: Are taleban today's kharijiites?
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1-bhai i need proves where they called some one kafir and their reasons and why you believe that these reasons are incorrect. See you are making a fatwa that only religiously illeterate people like lal topi are giving, majority of scholars have still not called them khawarij.
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Don’t tell me that TTP and sectarian outfits do not do takfeer (call Kafir to those who say they are Muslim)?
As for reason, who are TTP and these sectarian outfits to declare someone Kafir using their beliefs as reason? Do they consider themselves Allah or Angel has told them that Allah has given them permission to judge people’s faith?
When there are many reasons to consider TTP and sectarian outfits as Kafir … they should worry about their own kufr rather use their kufr beliefs to worry about others? Regardless, reasons do not matter because if we look at reasons then ‘Yazid bin Muawiya’ would have been first known person that Muslims would have called Kafir, but they did not (I do not think even Shais call that laeen Kafir … just because he use to confess from his words that he is Muslim … but what type of Muslim was he … that when he use to do pray darood in Namaz … he was sending Salamti and Barkat to children of prophet (SAW) but outside Salaat was doing everything to harm them … maybe he was not even praying darood in his Namaz, who knows).
Anyhow, people can find many reasons (according to their own beliefs) and apply to every known Muslims and then call them Kafir. If takfeer would have been allowed in Islam, then who knows, may be for some ... even eating Ice-cream would have been kufr as Prophet never ate Ice-cream (that would have been reason for takfeer on people eating Ice-cream), so they would have started doing takfeer on anyone eating Ice-cream according to their reason.
Just imagine, according to Wahabi aqedah (as well as many Deobandis), they give human form to Allah and believe Allah is literally sitting on throne (chair) above sky surrounded by angels and pious [just like Pagans, Greeks, Romans, Trinitarian (Christians), and Hindus do], and that is kufr so I can call all Wahabis kafir on that pretext alone … but I don’t because that would be kufr itself.
Thing is that, a Muslim judges another person's faith from his confession (person saying that he/she is Muslim), but Shaitan and kafirs judge faith of other person according to their personal beliefs (and that is what Takfeeris do).
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2-Try asking your drone friends to be more precise in their strikes, as these strikes are killing more innocents then dogs of hell. i think dogs of hell can only die in collateral damage in these strikes.
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Well, if I was in their place, I would have ask all peaceful citizen to move out of infected areas, wetting each person moving out, and then would have done carpet bombing for a month, sending kharjees to hell sooner than later. :)
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3-i would appreciate if your reply is not more then 500 characters and to the point.
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PS; we will continue to have this discussion once a separate thread is opened.**
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I use more characters so that people do not misunderstand my post. These days, some people look into ways to misunderstand what is said. Unfortunately, even after using more than 500 characters and using clear words, explaining what I want to say from various angles, still people ask same question … or make comments without understand what is said.
Just imagine … how clearly, with minute detail I explained that why location in ‘Najdi Hadith’ is Najd in central Arabia (with centre point at Riyadh), and still I am sure many would not understand that.
I wrote that drone is doing good job killing ‘dogs of hell’ and you assumed that I am also including innocent children (or innocent adults) who unintentionally got killed by drones, considering them ‘dogs of hell’ too … when certainly I was not, and probably few more words explaining that in my earlier post would not have created confusion and need for my later post with clarification and explanation.
