more anglicised? both india and pakistan were the same british colony at the time of independence. the brits left both countries with the same exact educational system meant to churn out clerks for the queen’s empire. one can even make the claim that pakistan’s founder and his men were clearly more anglicized than the indian leadership. the biggest difference, imho, comes from two policy decisions made in the first few years soon after.
land reforms - india passed a law that made it illegal to own tracts of land larger than a certain size. zameendari, a system that had been nourished and maintained by the brits to have a docile subservient population that paid taxes, disappeared overnight. pakistan is still a nation run by landlords, and ally strongly along ethno-linguistic lines in comparison with indians.
establishment of state sponsored institutions for agriculture, technology and learning. impractical dream-boy nehru established a whole bunch of these things throughout the country - most of them failed miserably and continue to do so, laboring on to their inevitable demise. but the ones that made it, teh educational instituions, have paid dividends.
you have a point, the landlords in Pakistan were and are in power, made laws to continue their positioning, and it has had a long term and continuing impact.
although I believe that the part of British Raj that became Pakistan had lower educational attainment in general even then, part geographic and cultural, and part due to the resistance to modern education many muslims had, an error against which people like sir syed rallied and established aligarh.
I think the policies caused further damage, but the mindset and infrastructure was not the same in all areas.
And what is the basis of your comment to say that Pakistanis are more street smart. Hope it is not because you find more Pakistanis on the street loitering around
Good Music is more advanced in Pakistan that in India. I have difficulty in believing this. I will take your word for it. Nobody denies that educational achievement is not the same as being smart though I believe it requires a certain level of smartness for educational achievments. It is very easy to belittle educational achievments but sometimes we would have to agree that grapes are sour.
Of course it takes a certain level of smartness for educational achievements - that is not my point at all. My point is that Pakistanis despite having those same “smarts” will not USE them - because of other factors. We tend to use the “smarts” in other ways.
In terms of sour grapes - I’m Pakistani - yes - but I certainly am not a proud one - I will be the first to criticise us and dissent in the attempt to stimulate progress and improvement. I admire Indian’s in the good things that they do right … but I am being fair to this topic as well.
Educational achievement is a beast that has many influencing factors:
Syllabus
Culture of effort
Natural Ability
Beliefs of what education can enable
The priority of education amongst other of life’s demands
and so on …
We only see the result and we can provide our own theories - but alas we must always make assumptions in our analyses. The truest scientific test would be to test people in controlled environments and you will probably find that the major factors affecting educational achievement is environment and society rather than any genetic factor. It would be logically unsound to conclude that Indians are smarter than Pakistanis purely based on academic achievement. I believe I have demonstrated with my experience on knowing both Indians and Pakistanis the more evident reasons for the disparity in the average achievements from both sub-groups.
I don’t consider myself the dumbest Pakistani - and indeed you aren’t the cleverest Indian either.
Then change your sources,secondary sources makes research less objective:), Heard about super-30?? Your point about lower strata is similar to all Malyali women wish to be nurses:D.
no its not personal. its just common knowledge.
btw you raise a very interesting question. ppl who still worship idols in this day and age, not just one but many, are confused not smart imho
so as opposed to what?
^ There is a saying “success is 99% perspiration, 1% inspiration”.
Read an article a while back about some land masses (such as Australia) being isolated. So the aborigines did not have much communication with rest of the world. Even though they may have been equally or more advanced say 40000 yrs ago, being isolated from rest of the world, they could noto exchange ideas. While there was enough cross-polination of ideas among the rest of the world, leading to progress. So for progress to occur, diversity of ideas and culture is important.
India is far more diverse - the South and the North are like pardesis to each other in language etc. There is also great religious diversity. And diversity is good.
In fact, America’s success is based on this concept - the universoties are a melting pot of cultures and ideas andn races.
They might be hardworking true..but then it requires a certain level of smartness to be hardworking and not just plain loiter around. A person might be the smartest one in this world, but what if he is plain lazy and has no attitude to work.
Dharam Yudh shru ho gaya.