Yo, so Ive heard that in some sects of Islam they have the concept of Nikah Mutah/Misyar and it’s getting increasingly common in many Muslim countries. So I was thinking if this is legit and could be a viable option for people get it to know their partner better before marriage? And maybe it could be a halal way for many people to have sex especially when they can’t marry yet like their early 20s cause of many factors? What do y’all think, is this even Islamic?
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Mutah/Misyar was practiced in the time of Prophet SAW and also in time of Hadrat Abu Bakkar and Hadrat Usman RA banned it. Many Saudis use it for paedophilia and exploit poor Indonesian and Indian Muslim girls and it is practiced in Iran for mainly prostitution. Saudis are horrifically abusing young Syrian children with extension of temporary marriage. I am not in favor of sth that exploits the vulnerable.
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I'm not sure what misyar is. As far as I know, mutah was banned in the lifetime of the Prophet SAW. However, if these are types of marriages, then how is it allowing people to get to know each other before marriage, as it would be within the marriage.
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mutah is marriage for a specified time.....
misyar doesn't have time limit....but lets both parties agree on which rights/obligations to opt out of......so like...boy girl can agree that we stay "married" but we don't have to live together or bear expenses of each other.......sort of halalized dating...
both are haram.
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Totally Haram..
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Islam has only one kind of marriage which is practiced in all major religions like Christianity and Judaism. However after the Prophet of Islam and his followers (companions) passed away (a couple of centuries later), in the Abbasid period Muslims collected hadiths in book form and various sects of Islam and deviant groups by that time included their understanding, misconceptions and forgeries in the books of hadith. Therefore the hadith literature is a mixture of right and wrong. That's why scholars had to grade them into Sahih (authentic), Daeef (weak), Maudu (fabricated) etc. There's even a book of 'hadith' called mauduaat (fabrications / forgeries). That's why when you look for basic principles of Islam you start from Quran and then you reach hadith and that's when you have to be very careful. Because Shias who used to practice Taqiyyah (deceptive hiding) which is a religious doctrine in their sect, included their version of Islam in Sunni hadith books. And that's where confusions arose.
You will find many contradictions in hadiths, hadiths about mutah in particular. Therefore it's necessary to first refer to Quran as a rule of thumb.
Quran uses the word istamta'kum and its variants at some 25 places. Nowhere does it mean temporary marriage. It only means getting benefit. However shias pick one of such verses and twist its meaning to imply that Quran permits temporary marriage, which is a lie and rubbish talk.
If you accept the meaning of Quranic word 'istmta'kum' as temporary marriage in one verse, accept the same meaning in other 20 plus verses also, but then it will destroy your plans.
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When Muslim armies conquered Persia under the 2nd caliph of Islam, many Zoroastrians did not approve of it. Therefore the 2nd caliph was assassinated by a Zoroastrian slave and the 3rd caliph was also assassinated by a group of rebels whose headquarters were in Persia (Kufah, Basrah etc). The 4th caliph was also assassinated following a series of civil wars at the hands of extremist Khawarij who were once partisans of the caliph. These incidents indicated there were huge political and ideological problems in the Muslim empire.
100 years of Omaiyads expanded the empire militarily and strategically but the anti-Islamic resistance forces kept growing in Persia. They picked one family from all, the family of Ali r.a and then the family of Hussain r.a. Roughly there were 50 rebellions from the family of Hussain r.a against the central government of Omaiyads.
By that time, the shia ideology was not written, it was mainly a political movement against the spread of Muslim empire with weak ideological basis revolving around one person Ali r.a. It should be noted that Ali r.a had nothing to do with their movement like Jesus has nothing to do with modern Christian belief system.
Later when Persia (Iran) fell under control of Safavids, they converted overwhelming majority of Sunnis into their version of Islam (shias) and rewrote shia ideology. That's when main shia religion as we know it today was formulated. Mut'ah is mainly a shia practice but to justify it, they pick and chose hadiths from sunni's books to claim that it's even permitted according to sunnis' books but sunnis are crazy they don't follow their books lol.
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Who tf would want to go through all the effort of a marriage equivalent of speed dating or some fwb set up? Just sin and ask for forgiveness later if you care about that.
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Who tf would want to go through all the effort of a marriage equivalent of speed dating or some fwb set up? Just sin and ask for forgiveness later if you care about that.
Because it's haram u idiot
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Because it's haram u idiot
And if what the other posters are saying is accurate, so is the other nonsense. Which brings me to the original question, why go through all the ridiculous and unnecessarily formalities when religious folk can always do the "sin and ask for forgiveness" cop out, u idiot.
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And if what the other posters are saying is accurate, so is the other nonsense. Which brings me to the original question, why go through all the ridiculous and unnecessarily formalities when religious folk can always do the "sin and ask for forgiveness" cop out, u idiot.
there is no guarantee that you will be forgiven as it is subject to sincere repentance, you idiot.
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there is no guarantee that you will be forgiven as it is subject to sincere repentance, you idiot.
Well, if OP or whoever engages in behavior that is "sinful" and *sincerely *feels remorse about whatever they did then it works out doesn't it? If someone is "weak" to their temptations regarding physical intimacy or whatever the hell and still cares about following religious rules then the fact they will bother to repent in the first place makes it most likely sincere, so your little concerns are practically redundant.
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You are ignoring how a sincere remorse is supposed to help you improve to just make your point, funny.
Sincere remorse should help you get better with your will power and it comes with practice. it may take more than one resolutions but if its not helping you to improve despite making efforts then you are a special case.
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You are ignoring how a sincere remorse is supposed to help you improve to just make your point, funny. Sincere remorse should help you get better with your will power and it comes with practice. it may take more than one resolutions but if its not helping you to improve despite making efforts then you are a special case.
Buddy, I am not going to detail out the specifics of feeling the right amount of remorse to beg for forgiveness and the entire thought process for this to make my point. Now you are just overreacting like usual.
*If *someone gives enough of a sh*t about following religious rules and changing their ways for the better after engaging in whatever sinful behavior they did to sincerely beg for forgiveness and move on to more holy behavior, then the deed is done. There are plenty of Muslims who will swear up and down that they are practicing but still engage in behavior that is "sinful" and it doesn't give them any internal struggles. They just have their fun and are content with themselves. The cop out advice is for those who care, who will feel guilty about this type of behavior, and who will want to move on and be more religious in the future. It is not that deep.
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Skipping the point of making efforts and focusing on amount of remorse... seems you still not getting it.
if you want to quit smoking and you could help it on your own you will go for counselling as making an effort, if you are really serious.
The other point is not everybody can be near to pefect state let alone perfection. And this issue is also addressed in ahadith/scripture that changing state of eman is with those who have eman. And for those who are always looking for shortcusts and exemptions will get reward accordingly.
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I think secret marraiges were forbade by Our Prophet PBU, both Mutah and Misyar are like a seccret marraige not announced to the community or the World!
secret marraige does not protect the rights of the Lady involved! hence it is forbidden!
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Yo, so Ive heard that in some sects of Islam they have the concept of Nikah Mutah/Misyar and it's getting increasingly common in many Muslim countries. So I was thinking if this is legit and could be a viable option for people get it to know their partner better before marriage? And maybe it could be a halal way for many people to have sex especially when they can't marry yet like their early 20s cause of many factors? What do y'all think, is this even Islamic?
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Do you think that marriages in West are more successful than muslim world as West already following sex/dating before marriage?
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Skipping the point of making efforts and focusing on amount of remorse... seems you still not getting it. if you want to quit smoking and you could help it on your own you will go for counselling as making an effort, if you are really serious. The other point is not everybody can be near to pefect state let alone perfection. And this issue is also addressed in ahadith/scripture that changing state of eman is with those who have eman. And for those who are always looking for shortcusts and exemptions will get reward accordingly.
No, I very much get it buddy. It seems like you aren't getting what I am saying. This is my first sentence:
If someone gives enough of a sh*t about following religious rules and changing their ways for the better after engaging in whatever sinful behavior they did **to sincerely beg for forgiveness *and move on to more holy behavior, then the deed is done.
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The implied effort is literally in the sentence.Again, I don't see why I have to sit there and address the entire process of the ~troo~ way of cleansing yourself of sin because the point is pretty much there.