Well if you date a girl and sleep with her and afterward get bored and leave her, you will ruin her life and yours if you think. One day she may get married and may remember you as a past lover, and might (wrongly or rightly) feel that her husband is not a good lover, and so she wants to contact you. You sleep with her again and disturb her married life. If she has kids, situation maybe worse than that. God has created human beings so that they will respect their private parts and don’t offer them for every other stranger who doesn’t want to live with them for life. Fornicators and adulterers destroy families; such families will have psychologically depressed couples and children who will spread mischief in the world by killing, robbing and committing all sorts of crimes.
There’s wisdom and peace in what Allah commands. When you ‘steal’ someone else’s woman to satisfy your desire in an hour, your one hour might devastate a whole lifetime!
Something like this is not impossible, but this is a pretty far fetched situation (like, for example. why this hypothetical woman would remember a past hook up and conclude that her husband is not good enough. That doesn’t make sense). Literally everything that comes afterwards sounds like it comes from a melodramatic soap opera that is divorced from reality. Have there been people who hooked up from past lovers before? Yes. Does a purity culture (like the one we have) stop infidelity? No. Infidelity happens regardless of whatever cultural set up there is. Two single youngsters hooking up for a while and then going on their separate ways is not necessarily going to lead up to some melodramatic soap opera situation later on.
Has the general attitudes that a good majority of Pakistanis hold about sex/sexuality stopped infidelity and pre-marital relations? Sure, you don’t have a lot of people going around bringing their girl/boyfriends at home to meet the family like in Western countries, but secret rendezvous have always happened and will continue to happen. Me calling it a “purity culture” is more painting it with its true colors. The culture very much values chastity and virginity (especially in women) and is extremely sex-segregated most of the time to deter pre-marital relations and traditionally has had extreme punishments for stepping out of line. I didn’t even try to paint it as good or bad, but the fact that you think I was trying to make some statement about it already says it all.
Who said the majority does it? I didn’t claim a majority, but I see your reading skills are failing you again (and yet you are calling me an idiot lmao). Whether you like it or not,* secret rendezvous will happen regardless of the culture*.
what is purpose behind making point that the culture does not stop infidelity? what you do you want get out of this point when we know that no religion or culture will impact 100% followers? there will be many people left who would not follow religion or simply are social evaders. so why are you dragging religion/culture?
What is the purpose of replying to me with this nonsense? You are the one who replied to my posts dragging this out. You are the one who first replied with ““Does the culture have no “positive” impact? or you just want to put it negatively?”” and I told you what I told you. I didn’t even bring up religion/culture to make this point originally, but to reply to Damras’s assertion that hooking up while single will create social unrest.
Initially i thought you are mentally sick as you most of the time skip pertinent points. But I know realize you are here for a propaganda. you justify this bakwas as you are replying to some other point. LOL
I correctly initially assumed you are an idiot, and you are still living up to my expectations of you. Shabash. What points did you even present that were worth replying to?
anything outside Quran is haraam.. so yes this mutah misyar or whatever there is, IS HARAAM.. commiting it without reading Quran will have more punishment.. because every Muslim have to read and understand Quran..
no it is not Islamic and never heard any Muslim doing it.. where did you hear it from?? because spreading a rumour without a proof is a sin.. (Quran: 49:6)
Some on the Shia factions practice that. For rest its not Islamic.
I’d go with the majority rejecting it due to following evidences from Ahadiths:
Divorce is something which is least disliked. Why would a relation being formed with such intentions be allowed?
and as far as early 20s goes, its the lack of character among Muslims. People in tribal areas still do it even before 20s because their faiths are not diverted by worldly attractions. The fault lies in both families infact whole society. Parent’s ego wont allow them to get their teens married. They’d rather spoil them and make them married to a wealthy person even if it takes 30+ years to do so.
We need to change the culture instead of following west blindly and then seeking shortcuts to form temporary relations. We should push our teens men to work a bit so that they can earn a little (very little, just enough to feed someone) so that he be responsible at early age and then get them married ASAP. Other it will only add more to deceptions, illegal relations, rapes, slavery etc.
and this ‘know your partner first’ thing is also pushed in by west. You are not supposed to leave your partner no matter how bad things be. Divorce was meant for very rare anomalies, not for every single person to exercise it.
I am editing because I missed the above red lines. Thanks to LP’s latest post. I agree with LP. Divorce is not for rare cases. One case of divorce was marriage of Zaid bin Haritha r.a with Zaynab bint Jahsh r.a. Another case was when Prophet s.a.w permitted a girl to end her marriage who was forced into it.
These days, if a lady finds that her husband is a sicko and is not suitable for her, she may end this marriage. Divorce is needed in many cases.
The marriage-fandom here, especially the polygyny-fandom is truly funny. The amount of delusional stanning y’all have about this effectiveness of marriage keeping society intact and how purity culture will keep perverts at bay is hilarious!
