Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
Imran Khan brought up this topic and used it for his political gain, which is sad considering his approach of "intelligent point of views". There is no doubt to this day that Pakistan is and has been led by Generals, feudal, lotays and families. No wonder we do not have democracy, people do not have voice to express their true opinions and tax payers do not get the benefits of their hard work. Our country has been hijacked by these people and religion by Mullahs. This is one of the reason our country is a failed state. I am not endorsing Altaf views as every one of us are entitled to their own, but we should be discussing the past and present leadership of Pakistan rather calling each other names on national Television.
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ‘‘Mistake’’, Video clip
Bhai, its because the Karachiites are brain dead and keep voting for this guy or at least MQM can force it from them. If someone else can get a clean sweep in Karachi I’m sure they would be part of the coalition and not MQM.
After seeing the video though … yaar humaray ghar ka Jamadaar bhi is se ziyada graceful tha …
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
Haha, yeah I saw this the other night on Capital Talk. This is ridiculous. How do you have so many followers of a guy who wants to be a leader of a country that he doesn't think should exist in the first place?
I doubt Karachittes keep voting for him. Everyone knows that elections are rigged, and you're usually forced by some bully to register your vote in a particular way. I don't know if its still like that, but its been that way for some time. Most people don't even bother voting - they don't want to be troubled by the lawless bullying.
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ‘‘Mistake’’, Video clip
I can ask the same thing: why do people still like bhutto [idhr hum udhr tum] when he was one of the chief architects of breaking Pakistan and destroying the economy by quota system?
Sonay pe sohaga, I got a “warning” from a mod for saying that on this website! And you wonder about other people???
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
It is a cycle. It was started around Ayub's era and it wasn't that bad until feudal bhutto decided to "nationalize" all businesses [then institute quota system] and karachi naturally lost a lot of its private enterprise / entrepreneurs as it is the business capital of Pakistan [back then Punjab wasn't very developed either]. Then you had parties like PPI [no one ever is "disgusted" by them here?] coming and taking people off buses and killing them just for being "mahajir". I never hear any complaints about such party as I have found that this site itself contains ethnofascists from all over Pakistan. I consider myself a pakistani and my parents always did but the bs treatment from the "nationalist" sindhi/punjabi/pathan etc with establishment backing have made other people look for this mahajir identity.
I seriously have thought what would make bengalis, the most ardent supporters of Pakistan, want to abandon it in 1971? They weren't some stupid idiots who would just succumb to indian propaganda [actually very politically conscious] unlike what some punjabi armywalas want you to believe.
Once you migrate to a newly formed nation, adapt to its ways rather than rather than forming an identity of your own.. Pakistan should have given citizenship to only a selected group of non-punjabi migrants instead of every thug, beggar who migrated from UP, Bihar and Hyderabad deccan to economically well-off Pakistan. It could have been based on point system or worker's permit leading to green card depening on a person's criminal record etc.. Nothing of that sort happened and now we have goondas like Altaf :(
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
Once you migrate to a newly formed nation, adapt to its ways rather than rather than forming an identity of your own.. Pakistan should have given citizenship to only a selected group of non-punjabi migrants instead of every thug, beggar who migrated from UP, Bihar and Hyderabad deccan to economically well-off Pakistan. It could have been based on point system or worker's permit leading to green card depening on a person's criminal record etc.. Nothing of that sort happened and now we have goondas like Altaf :(
technically there were more bengalis so the country should have adapted to bengali ways :)
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
I mean they should have inctroduced it in 1947 to avoid criminals and thugs from India..
what about criminals and thugs that existed already in pakistan borders in 1947. I mean we do know what they did to hindus and sikhs dont we? or are our books still telling us that atrocities were one sided.
I think regardless of the generous label of thugs and ghundas, those migrants overall have the highest literacy rate in the nation. :)
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
Haha, yeah I saw this the other night on Capital Talk. This is ridiculous. How do you have so many followers of a guy who wants to be a leader of a country that he doesn't think should exist in the first place?
I doubt Karachittes keep voting for him. Everyone knows that elections are rigged, and you're usually forced by some bully to register your vote in a particular way. I don't know if its still like that, but its been that way for some time. Most people don't even bother voting - they don't want to be troubled by the lawless bullying.
exactly he is so full of it.
and elections are rigged very heavily in karachi. some friends from there tell me that that every polling station has mqm goons with weapons. the turn out is very tiny yet when votes are counted karachi delivers vast number of votes.
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ‘‘Mistake’’, Video clip
Criminals and thugs in Punjab and Sindh? If you know what happened during partition, you will know only a few hindus and sikhs were targeted.. others were provided peaceful passage to India- we punjabis were thanked for that. On the other hand my brother, if you talk to Punjabi/Pathan/Sindhi elders who saw partition bloodbath, they’ll tell you that most of the people killed in partition riots were poor Punjabi muslims… Hindus and Sikhs left in fear after trains full of mutilated dead bodies started arriving from the east… What sikhs did to muslims was really really bad.. Punjabi muslims peacefully took the hit during those days while Hindu right wing leader Gandhi kept on instigated Hindu and Sikhs extremists to target muslim homes.. He even fasted to force muslim stop reacting to their kinds being killed at the hands of hindus and sikhs..what a clever play. Had it not been for muslim league, no muslim punjabi would have survived in entire punjab.
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
technically there were more bengalis so the country should have adapted to bengali ways :)
But Bengalis were like native Americans- not capable to join politics and rule plus they even refused to accept Urdu or Punjabi as the national language...
Re: Altaf Hussain says creation of Pakistan a ''Mistake'', Video clip
But Bengalis were like native Americans- not capable to join politics and rule plus they even refused to accept Urdu or Punjabi as the national language...
They were majority, you should be the one speaking bengali. Punjabis were learning how to tie pagris when bengalis where developing literature, poetry and math.
The only argument I see against the facts I presented is that united india would have been a greater blunder than the blunder Pakistan is today. And let's say this is true, this doesn't change the facts of what Pakistan has become. The only way forward is to rethink how Pakistan should be governed, otherwise it will not work out. And I assure you it will not be mohajirs who will break Pakistan, but other "native sons of soil".