Allama Iqbal did it all

I know Iqbal day (Nov 09) was yesterday and I dont even know if thats commemorated in Pakistan with a great zeal or no. Do kids in Pakistan really know who the great philosopher was, and the vision he had for all of us which eventually lead to the ideology of Pakistan.

Somewhere I just read a piece of Iqbal’s amazing poetry, and its just one piece so we can imagine how much entire extract would contain. But I think he pretty much summarized everything in here.

How many of us agree with what Iqbal has said here? Can we discuss?

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Those two ash’ar cover almost all aspects of life…:k:
Interesting thing about Iqbal is he is respected by almost all sects including shia and sunnis.

Tu Ne Dekha Hai Kabhi Ae Didah-e-Ibrat Ke Gul
Ho Ke Paida Khak Se Rangeen Qaba Kyunkar Huwa

O admonishing eye! Have you ever seen, how the rose
Having been born out of dust became colorful

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Ok, I’ll bite :smiley:

Whose “allah” are we distancing ourselves from? Judging from iqbal’s allahbad address (indian islam is different from arabi islam aka wahabism is not of india?), I think that Iqbal would probably be declared a fitnah by ba izzat pagri brigade, accused of blasphemy law and then hung from the sills of sialkot jail by a vigilante. The bar council would probably distribute laddoo and would be willing to represent the ghazi for free.

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I dont know about his address you mentioned but rest of your post I would agree with. I still think that Iqbal is very under-appreciated philosopher and thats precisely why he is not much cherished anymore (not that I’m aware of).

And there are many school of thoughts who already declare him Kaafir and say he was alcoholic and what not. And the base of that starts from the POV that Iqbal’s message doesnt resonate with their own agenda.
And thats exactly what the last verse of my shared stanza said → “Naara-e-takbeer bhi fitna..” I’m sure he would be labelled kafir on this verse itself.

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Javid Iqbal(Son of Iqbal) kay mutabiq… Allama Iqbal nay Pakistan ka khuwab nahi dekha… :hmmm:

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Not just kids, even most adults don’t know much about Allama Iqbal’s poetry or about other great Muslim heroes of the subcontinent. O/A levels is great for Math and Science education but the way it covers the treasures of literature of the subcontinent leaves a lifelong bad taste with it’s readers. Those interested in literature then get drawn to Shakespeare, Willam Wordsworth, etc. who no doubt are great names in their own right but since many of our educated people lack an understanding of their own greats, it subconsciously brings forth a slave mentality that sees the culture of the subcontinent as intellectually lacking compared to other cultures. The matric/inter system is designed to address all that but due to poor quality of Urdu teachers, the goal was never realized.

These were some of the concerns why Hakim Said started Hamdard school and Madinat-al-Hikmah and established the largest library of South Asia at the time. His team introduced so many programs to teach the new generation about their heroes so they feel confident about their culture when they grow up to face the world. But as we all know he was assassinated. Many people tried to restart that work from time to time but the momentum he built got lost.

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Firoun ky ghr musaa, or musaa ky ghr firoun paida hotey rahtey hai.. Plus Javed iqbal was too young when his father left… So his opinion does not make any difference.

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Wah Wah Wah …
This shair made my day..

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app to iqbal kay betay bhi nahi.. aur app to jab paida hoye thay to Iqbal ka beta to app say bohat hi bara tha…to apka to opinion bhi nahi matter karta…

This claim can be validated with facts…

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Anyhow…
This is my favourite …

““Ki Muhammad se wafa toonay to ham teray hain
Ye jahan cheez hai kiya lauh-o-qalam tere hain””

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bad qismati say iss ummat main mumtaz qadri jaisay gustakh aur begherat paida horahay hian…jo kay hamary nabi ki taleemat kay bar aks kaam karty hian…

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Very good points! :k:

I think Hakim Said was our last proper intellect and we can see where the country has gone since then

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Apny markaz say ager dor nikal jao gay
khaak hojao gay… afsano main dhal jao gay

apni matti par chalnay ka saleeqa sekho
sang e mar mar par chalo gay to phisal jao gay

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Koi haal nhe vaisy …

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err… its by a different Iqbal :smiley:

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ghalti say mistake hogiya.. kuch dino pehly hi parah tha.. acha laga.. aur main yehi soch raha hon.. iqbal ka lag nahi raha kahin na kahi koi kami hia… :hmmm:

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I think Allama answered his critics with this gem: :slight_smile:


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in addition to the Mullahs he went after the Politicians:


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With highest apology… mager hamary han ki darsi kitabon main Iqbal ko separatist ka darja diya jata hai.. jisny Pakistan ki ideology di thi… aea hargiz nahi hia… Iqbal kay khutbat ko tor maror kar pesh kiya jata hia… khud unkay apnay bety bhi yehi kahty hian kay Iqbal thinker of Pakistan nahi hia…

https://www.dawn.com/news/1219465

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Jab main School main parhta tha to Iqbal ka bara fan tha , Shikwa - Jawab Shikwah zabani yad thi phir
Main bara ho gia
Iqbal nay khud hi bata dia

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مسجد تو بنا دی شب بھر میں ایماں کی حرارت والوں نے

من اپنا پرانا پاپی ہے برسوں میں نمازی بن نہ سکا

اقبال بڑا اپدیشک ہے من باتوں میں موہ لیتا ہے

گفتار کا یہ غازی تو بنا کردار کا غازی بن نہ سکا