Then you missed the aftermath at the prison when dozens and dozens of Taliban soldiers shown on TV massacred, all with their hands tied behind their backs.
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Oh I agree, I seen those empty football fields FILLED with dead Taliban and Al-Qead, I honestly have to see, what I seen that day will NEVER EVER get out of my head. I say to HELL with them, I honestly don't give a damn what else happens to them, I have no sympathy whatsoever, they don't give a damn crap when they see US dying.
Its funny, how they can't believe the pix the Al-Jazeera are showing, how come they had no sympathy for what happen in Afghanistan????? Honestly I know its not right to speak like this, but I really really really want reveng for what happen in Afghanistan, those pix will forever be in my mind.
as BL said...............let them suffer as we have did for many years! For time I agree with him
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Ask the farmer who shot down the apache helicopter...maybe the rotor blades were knocking over his corn cobs?
You don't know the first thing about Iraq or the Iraqi people, or about being invaded as a sovereign peoples.
Man you're intelligence is average...quiet apt really.
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Hey Thap did you see that, I could'nt believe it Allah u Akbar
and I agree with you, how would you feel if SOMEONE came into YOUR HOME and tried to invade it? What the hell was that last week, when they came in took down the Iraqi flag and put up the American one, who they hell did they think they where, and another funny thing, they kept running towards the wells, I think, that they think its theirs. FUNNY PEOPLE INDEED.
I don't understand why majority of the people here seem to think that Americans only have compassion for Americans? Also remember Brits are also involved in this war, why is it no one ever seems to remember that?
I have heard soldiers yelling on live T.V. that they cannot shoot without a defined target.. Also reports that they were not allowed to use areial artillary because civilians are laid up with soldiers, even though that would save American troops. Does that say that Americans have no compassion for innocent bystanders?
They have sent millions of flyers to Iraqi's warning them to stay away from military installations.
If Saddam salts his armies among civilians how can one completely blame Americans for civilian deaths? If a government puts its citizens in the line of fire doesn't that make the government also responsible?
Isn't there even American human shields in Iraq? I'd call that pretty compassionate. If I choose to guard an army and am shot, isn't that sort of my own fault?
I don't think those soldiers truly wanted war. I think it was Miller's mom who mentioned that he worked at he worked at a Sonic hamburger restraunt before he joined the army. Mostly they are teenagers who probobly joined up because they needed a decent job and money to pay for an education and probobly never really expected to be sent to war.
In my thinking they are victims just as much as Iraqi's are victims.
I ask why some here can't allow themselves any compassion for them?
Miller or "the fat black girl".
I can find it in my heart to express glee over dead Iraqi's anymore than I could express glee over dead Americans.
AAG - Where the Americans can radio in for an apache to blitz the enemy from air, Iraqis don't have such luxuries. They have to use and abuse what little they have, even if it is in the form of civilians and regardless of the morality of their actions.
And about no one mentioning the Brits? One of the benefits of being slave not Master, you are not constantly performing under the spotlight.
Flyers? LOL. I bet half the fliers land on empty streets, open fields, in rural regions where the civilians have about as much chance of being bombed as reading them.
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the Fact is AAG the U.S. could level Iraq in about 3 days and not put any U.S. soldiers in harms way.
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Should they be defending the Iraqi soldiers parade? Or should they defend the pictures of prisoners in Gauntanamo Bay who have been denied any rights, No GENEVA convention etc.?
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the Fact is AAG the U.S. could level Iraq in about 3 days and not put any U.S. soldiers in harms way.
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But then all the Oil would also be lost and that is your bigger loss.
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the Fact is AAG the U.S. could level Iraq in about 3 days and not put any U.S. soldiers in harms way.
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Agreed. And if American's had no compassion for innocents that is exactly what they would do.
Have heard an interview from an Iraqi defector that Saddam himself says that he only needs 5 million Iraqi's to run the country.
Compassionate man that Saddam.
As an American I harbor no animosity towards those Iraqi's defending their homeland. How could I?
I also don't find any joy seeing American kids dying in the desert like many here seem to. How could I? How could you?
Don't buy the oil arguement. If ALL we wanted was oil wouldn't it easier to just go level some country with a smaller army? Been said time and time again that the oilfields belong to the Iraqi people. Imagine what condition the Iraqi people would be in if all the oil was burned? Certainly would harm American economy but would hurt the Iraqi's even more.
I think the majority of people want the Americans to go home and want rid of Saddam through any means but war no matter how lengthy the process as long as civilian suffering is minimised.
i for one am glad they're not showing it on american tv. these crazy amrikis will just get pissed off and shoot a desi bhai or some sardar jee. this war is insane...................
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i for one am glad they're not showing it on american tv. these crazy amrikis will just get pissed off and shoot a desi bhai or some sardar jee. this war is insane...................
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You have a point there Tums. Thats possible.
I'm also fairly certain I can rest assured knowing that myself and the rest of the Crazy Americans are now up for target practise.
it is extremely insane, perhaps i should move somewhere where there are neither crazy fanatics nor crazy americans. perhaps new zealand? they seem pretty cool...
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the Fact is AAG the U.S. could level Iraq in about 3 days and not put any U.S. soldiers in harms way.
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True, but don't get carried away.. that's not only out of blind compassion. America would be castrated by every country and every citizen from Tokelau to China if we did anything near that. Compassion is a byproduct of PR.
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What about this quote from the Quran - aren't we better than the US government. Aren't we superor than this rogue nation for whom international laws are something to be mocked at? Let's not degrade ourselves by stooping to their filthy level; we know how POWs at Guantanamo and elsewhere are being treated. We know that Geneva Conventions signify nothing of substance to the US government. Since when have international laws meant anything to the US as it conducts its illegal invasion against a sovereign country? So -- why should we imitate their inhumane lawlessness ? How does that make us any better than the world's worst rogue nation?
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I really wish you coud step back and look at your self righteous comments objectively, Nadia. You used to come across much less Majestic. Who exactly is this "we" you sancrimonously refer to that is so infinitely superior? What Muslim group, nation or society can claim such piety? Which of the 50+ Muslim countries show this kind of compassion to their own population, never mind non-Muslims? Do you really not know what Iraq and other Arab governments do to their dissidents, prisoners and POW's? While you are all hopping mad and demanding justice, please do not overlook the "inhumane lawlessness" that currently permeates throughout the Muslim world. The poor suffering masses of the world that are currently not being invaded by the United States could also use you as an advocate.
The US is a sick place!. The people are bad. The american army consists of cowards who murder muslims.
All the channels dish out useless propaganda.
I feel so sick when Bush comes on TV.
How are the americans treating the poor afghans, the poor Iraqis.
The list is endless...
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aren't we better than the US government. Aren't we superor than this rogue nation for whom international laws are something to be mocked at? Let's not degrade ourselves by stooping to their filthy level; we know how POWs at Guantanamo and elsewhere are being treated. We know that Geneva Conventions signify nothing of substance to the US government. Since when have international laws meant anything to the US as it conducts its illegal invasion against a sovereign country? So -- why should we imitate their inhumane lawlessness ? How does that make us any better than the world's worst rogue nation?
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I too would like to know who the "we" is. Degrade "ourselves" by stooping to a filthy level. Am I to understand that you, Nadia are the Iraqi military and the Iraqi military is you or "we". Otherwise who could be the "we" who has the power treat American POWs in any manner?
Even George Bush will not frame this conflict in the terms you see it. He will not degrade an entire culture, but he is going after bad guys. The only Western leader who dared say anything about relative cultural superiority was Italy's P.M. soon after 9/11, and he got slapped down pretty good. Feelings of cultural superiority can only lead to trouble.