Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
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Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Rainy, if you can’t tolerate my post, move on or put me on ignore. I am calling a celebrity whatever I like, and rightly so. The matches are watched by more than a billion population, mostly with their families and the lingo used by our two super star is not something anyone would like to hear in one’s house. Atleast thats the case with most of the respectable families, I don’t know about you.\
Instead of condemning their vulgar swearing and threats, you have found me to target. You are bringing Indian sledging/swearing as an excuse: Uzare Gunnah Budtar Az Gunnah. :k:
You talk about being person to the players and that how much you dislike that, but in the same post you’re getting personal to the person you are replying to. What kind of standard you follow?
If you have problems with my post, PM ehsan or whoever, but if you get personal as you did in this thread, I will not keep myself to show you mirror very soon. I know you have brain of Cafe’ kid, but you are degrading yourself everyday here. Don’t ever dare to read and reply to my post ![]()
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Thats what you think smooth! Needless to say how far apart you are from making a point ever. Cafe has more 'brainstormers' than you can have on entire forums. And being a cafeite is not a 'curse'. Though its good to know how much effort you have put in proving your self a 'Mature person,,errr a cricketer' by staying away from 'Cafe' ,,, its laughable realy! You are proving your self to be a moron in citing 'One wrong is better than 2 wrongs'
Go figure,,,
Yes! You have every right to abuse 'Public figures' in your favourite trash lingo. Just keep it to a minimum,,just in case it catches on and spreads to other members as an 'Ok thing'
PS: Show me where did you see Shoaib swearing,,,
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Salam gentlemen...
All you grown ups that contend that Cussing is part of the game... fine... But theres a point when you cross the line... if you got players that are cussin at another players family then they need to be reprimanded....
Guys like mkhan and raindance, I dont care how old you are or how much of a cricket fan you are or how many degrees you have or how numazi you are...
Learn to call a Spade a Spade
There is nothing wrong in saying that our pakistani players were out of line... a nation of 150 million... and im telling ya there are at least a few million a-holes... So whose to say that afridi and Shoaib aint? then again they could be real nice guys with a foul tongue...
And i dont care if the indian player is a muslim or not... your morals/behaviour should always be constant!
Salam
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
All you grown ups that contend that Cussing is part of the game... fine... But theres a point when you cross the line... if you got players that are cussin at another players family then they need to be reprimanded....
Guys like mkhan and raindance, I dont care how old you are or how much of a cricket fan you are or how many degrees you have or how numazi you are...
Learn to call a Spade a Spade
There is nothing wrong in saying that our pakistani players were out of line... a nation of 150 million... and im telling ya there are at least a few million a-holes... So whose to say that afridi and Shoaib aint? then again they could be real nice guys with a foul tongue...
And i dont care if the indian player is a muslim or not... your morals/behaviour should always be constant!
Salam
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You are jumping the gun here!
Since you know whats its all about ,, Then stop calling 'smoke' a 'fire' and the other way round. So far its all guess work and posters carrying other peoples sentiments to declare sentence on one/two specific players. No one has seen or themselves watched an incident to be of fair judgment.
You are no exception with your timid speech either.
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
All you grown ups that contend that Cussing is part of the game... fine... But theres a point when you cross the line... if you got players that are cussin at another players family then they need to be reprimanded....
Guys like mkhan and raindance, I dont care how old you are or how much of a cricket fan you are or how many degrees you have or how numazi you are...
Learn to call a Spade a Spade
There is nothing wrong in saying that our pakistani players were out of line... a nation of 150 million... and im telling ya there are at least a few million a-holes... So whose to say that afridi and Shoaib aint? then again they could be real nice guys with a foul tongue...
And i dont care if the indian player is a muslim or not... your morals/behaviour should always be constant!
Salam
Walikum Assalam. :)
Yes, agreed on all accounts!
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
That shows ur ignorance, people have downloaded the swearing video and watched it several of times and are coming to this thread pissed off at the two star players, and you still don’t know where he went wrong. I hope you have watched the video.
Akhtar could be a gentleman, but didn’t show his best by abusing Irfan with the filthiest swear words. What kind of person you are??? Evidence is there, Akhtar and Afrdi swearing inspite of knowing how good wicket MICs are, you are calling me something which you really are AND you have problem with me calling them what they actually showed as their class. They can do infront of billion people, but we can’t say 1% of it for them?
Plus, you are nobody to tell anyone what they should do. Mind your own business Mr. Intellectual and don’t get personal here otherwise I may not be mature as you are, but there are majority of decent people here who think about you as something which will be heart breaking for you. So get back into your skin.
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Smoothay! You have proven my point and justified the trash lingo you use, calling your so called celebrities “Chamaars” and what not when you are cursing them for using foul language in the first place? Hello,?
Perhaps you should ask your intellectual friends here if** it is “hypocrisy”** or not,
You should not worry about the “Majority of decent people” liking or disliking me, neither do I. Here I have ‘Good friends’ & ‘Some confused ones’, later for me being a self proclaimed yard-stick for people like you, who are unnecessarly hurling abusive remarks when a point can be made without mixing your filth in it.
If you can not understand this basic point then, allow me to use this smiley Cafe style! ![]()
Some ‘Friend’ has just corrected me in saying that ‘Mailla people’ use this kind of trash lingo, what ever that is, but it sure has “Sticky Taboo” sound to it, and it suits you, ! ![]()
Happy Cricketing !
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
hey should not have said this to Pathan, he seems to be gentleman, if they had said these words to Tendulkar, that would be OK. I remeber once india won the match and tendulkar got the last man out, Saqlain, and he said pointing to dressing room F**k Off. Such people shoul;d have the same things hurled back to them. So come back Shoaib in next match and say it to Tendulkar.
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
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This Afridi/Pathan thing is getting a bit out of hand. Dravid brough on Pathan as soon as Afridi arrived and Afridi obliged by going berserk and throwing his wicket away at a crucial stage.
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Since this thread was already made on the subject of sledging, I have brought it back to life to quote the following article (there has also been some very good contributions in this thread by various members):
You only walk when you run out of petrol
**To trust, or not to trust, that is the question
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02 April 2006
SLEDGING and walking have been contentious issues for as long as the game has been played.
Whether sledging is good or not is a personal preference.
Some say sledging harms the game, some say it enhances the competitiveness of the contest. One thing’s for sure — it’s not going to go away and to me, too much time and energy are wasted by us, the media, on this type of issue.
For many covering the game it provides “an angle” as some media are just not knowledgeable enough to write on what they see.
Editors, too, want to sell newspapers, so what Shane Warne says is more important than what he does with the ball. More is the pity.
In days gone by, cricket was written about by people who had a deep understanding of the game and a long history in it. That only exists in England now, so multi-tasking has come to the fore and off-field issues take a higher profile. Perhaps it’s time not only for players to take stock (André Nel comes to mind) but also the media. Maybe it’s time to focus more on the game and less on the antics. The game, I think, will be better for it.
Do I walk on a man’s word? That’s the vexed question for all those playing at the highest level.
Ricky Ponting has been a leader on this issue, but has been thwarted by other captains who feel more inclined to leave the decision to the umpire.
It would be utopia if every player trusted all others playing international cricket, but there are so many variables that it seems highly unlikely. Too much prestige, money and career-threatening events are at work to believe that it will happen on a regular basis.
Ponting and Brian Lara are strong advocates of walking, but there are others who believe that you only walk when you run out of petrol!
Replays are invariably inconclusive and all batsmen know this and will always get the benefit of the doubt — or so they say.
Fields, too, are assumed to be flat but they aren’t.
The centre square is raised to allow for drainage, so cameras at ground level on opposite sides of the ground on the boundary battle to view catches made close to the ground off the square area, mainly in the slips region.
Again, batsmen know this, and will stay put, knowing that the television replays are likely to be inconclusive and that the batsman traditionally gets the benefit of the doubt.
Jacques Rudolph must be admired for accepting his decision on Friday off Warne’s bowling so graciously, especially as his place in the side may now be in jeopardy.
But was the decision the right one?
The question now is, where do we draw the line? At what point do we stop and say “That’s enough”? Is there a limit to verbal sledging? Should there be one?
Most importantly, do you, as a cricket fan, find verbal sledging to be “appropriate”?
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
I remember that...it was more like kamray mein aaana teri G maroon gaa said to pathan by Akhtar...haha
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Muslim swearing at non-muslim: Bad bad bad. Muslim swearing at muslim: Bad bad bad + bonus bad points.
Captain Lota
Captain, being a Muslim, as far as I know, our Prophet (peace be upon him) has not made any distinction between Muslims and nonMuslims when it comes to abuse. He has said, "Do not abuse anyone." - according to Book Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 32, Number 4073. (Please correct me if I'm wrong by quoting the Prophet's (p.b.u.h.) saying in support of your view.)
More sayings - In Sahih Muslim Book 001, Number 0162: *
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-'As that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: Abusing one's parents is one of the major sins. They (the hearers) said: Messenger of Allah, does a man **abuse* his parents too? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Yes, one abuses the father of another man, who in turn abuses his father. One abuses his mother and he in turn abuses his (the former's) mother.
Book 015, Number 4092: *
[INDENT]Al-Ma'rur b. Suwaid said: We went to Abu Dharr (Ghifari) in Rabadha and he had a mantle over him, and his slave had one like it. We said: Abu Dharr, had you joined them together, it would have been a complete garment. Thereupon he said: There was an altercation between me and one of the persons among my brothers. His mother was a non-Arab. I reproached him for his mother. He complained against me to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him). As I met Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) he said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (in him the remnants) of the days (of Ignorance). Thereupon I said: Allah's Messenger, he who **abuses* (other) persons, they abuse (in return) his father and mother. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (the remnants) of Ignorance in him. They (your servants and slaves) are your brothers. Allah has put them in your care, so feed them with what you eat, clothe them with what you wear. and do not burden them beyond their capacities; but if you burden them (with an unbearable burden), then help them (by sharing their extra burden).
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Its so surprising that Islam becomes so prevasive in basic thought process that common sense takes a back seat… ![]()
Ofcourse things are happening the way they are happening…
Lets play cricket and forget what religion is batsmen or bowler is from..
Sledging and abusive is bad bad bad
Or you will reach a stage where if Pakistani bowlers takes wicket of a Muslim player from other team - Mahroof SL, many in India, Kabir, Owasis in England, ..
Somebody will issue a fatwa against that bowler… ![]()
Vice versa a fatwa when somebody hits another Muslim bowler for a Six…![]()
come on guys, lets keep the sports field away from Religion, there is enough BS happening in other threads here…![]()
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
It happens in the sport of wrestling all the time, so why not cricket? And Im sure Shoaib and Afridi wont just lash out at Pathan for no reason, he must've been asking for it.
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Please read through the thread, it was more or less unprovoked.
You are right, in ice hockey hitting is allowed as per rules, why not in cricket...... :-):D
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
Hey, what happens before the match or away from the stump microphones is anyones guess...so no one really knows the "whole story".
Besides, Pathan looks really happy to see Younis Khan being called for a hearing...
Re: Afridi and Shoaib abusing Pathan during 2nd test
well what I saw on the video is pretty normal, its one way to distract the batsman and nothing more. it was blown apart just because of the commentators were indian and they were commenting on it, instead of using their brains.
if any of you who has seen the 1st or 2nd test between Aus vs. Saffies (current test series) will surely have heard variety of comments so its all part of the game and nothing more, on personal level not every cricketer can do such a thing!
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I beg to differ from the above statement. My understanding is proposed in such a manner that, (and as we all might know) there are practically dozens of ways of "seducing" the batsmen (if you will) from precisely all directions, regardless of whether it is pulling yourself up towards him, within an inch closer and provoking him in such a manner as to maintain the calmness of the behavior and attitude, or whether it is forcing the batter to look you straight into the eye on numerous ocassions in order to induce him to play a false stroke, however, in no circumstances whatsoever, nothing in the world comes even close to the level of insanity and the height of imbecility as what took place inside those twelve minutes. Out of all the hook and crook ways and the number of higher-level politicians present in Pakistan at this very moment, who are robbing the hard-earned money of lower-class families day and night, in my own opinion, it was one of the worst behaviors that the entire nation was forced to condone. The above is not based on the sub-continent part alone; it applies to the entire demographic who are into World Cricket at the moment, including the likes of Australia and South Africa. It is not forgivable in that part of the world, and it is not certainly forgivable in this part of the world, either.