Even people from Crawford Texas don’t like Bush. A weekly newspaper that bills itself as President Bush hometown paper has endorsed John Kerry for president, saying the Massachusetts senator will restore American dignity.
Pretty sad when the US has to use Afghanistan as a benchmark for success. I would hate to see what the US sees as a failure 
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Despite the cynics here, the Afghanistan elections have to be counted as an unbelieveable success.
Voter registration was beyond all expectations. Millions of Afghans waited patiently for hours to vote. (At great personal risk) Women voted in great numbers. The Taliban did not disrupt the elections. The Afghan people have proved that they do not want totalitarian regimes, they want a voice.
Are the elections perfect? No, what did you expect from a country that has had 25 years of non-stop war? But by all accounts international observers say that the vote was reasonably reliable, and that if there are irregualrities that they will be independently investigated.
The bravery and courage of the Afghan people has been demonstrated at the ballot box. War fatigue, and the search for a better life have motivated the Afghan people to start to help themselves. A great success regardless of the results....
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OG,
The elections been a fraud. UN failed to publish this. I'm not a clairvoyant to understand what is going on here, the best way to make the votes of the opposition wastes is to bring up more than just one STRONG contender to Karsai. Right or wrong?
The results was and is clear....where is the success?
It's like asking for a ban for chilled, served monkey brains in Africa!
Well, since you all are notriosly hard to please, here is the headline from your favorite lefty paper:
Boycott flops as Afghan poll declared fair
Declan Walsh in Kabul
Monday October 11, 2004
The Guardian
An opposition boycott of Afghanistan’s presidential election appeared to be cracking yesterday as local and international observers declared the vote prone to blunders but generally fair.
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:k: The $200 million vote worked after all, very nice.
Watch out for the next popularly elected leader after the very “popular” Karzai, it will be Alawi of Iraq. The ruler of Kabul suddenly became so popular that he seems to have swept the elections even outside Kabul. Strange but rigged, never. 
OG, yes it does put Afghanistan ahead of Paksitan where even Musharraf could not rig the elections the way US and Karzai did. Roll on, lead the way.
"could not rig the elections the way US and Karzai did"
Please present one ounce of fact that this happened. There have been absolutely no allegations in any reporting anywhere of any massive fraud. Did Karzai have the money, support and backing of the US? yes. Did the Afghan people know this? yes. Did they vote for him? apparently so.
Other than a few sour grapes losers, there have been no allegations whatsoever that this was anything other than a fair election. Indeed, there were more poll watchers and international election officials than in any election in the world in recent history.
So make your case other than just your opinion....
^ Did people even know who Karzai was before US imposed him there, NO.
Did his writ run outside Kabul despite relentless bombing and intimidation by US forces, NO.
Did he suddenly become popular amongst the people, NO.
So how is he going to win the elections.
Keep believing your western media and intellignece, the same media and intelligence who said Saddam was 45 minutes away from wiping the world with his WMD's. The same administration which told theworld that thedanger was so real that it could not give UN any more time in case US was wiped of the face of this earth by Saddam. Yes, the same reliable sources. Some people never learn.
I doubt anyone outside of US controlled Kabul (a few buildings) even knows the name of the guy running of election. Isn't he supposed to represent all of Afghanistan? Well it might help if you have control all of it, before worrying about elections. But oh yeah, Bush needs to save face so screw what's good for Afhanistan.
OG,
It's funny isnt it?
If u copy paste things then do it appropriate and do also copy the important stuff like this one:
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*Mohammed Mohaqeq, a high profile challenger to the interim president, Hamid Karzai, said he no longer supported the boycott announced on Saturday by all 15 opposition candidates, who claimed there had been widespread voter fraud. *
"There is no question of a boycott," he told about 1,000 supporters at a mosque in western Kabul.
*The US ambassador, Zalmay Khalilzad, shuttled between other candidates to persuade them to follow Mr Mohaqeq's example as the counting of the votes started in eight tightly guarded centres. *
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Ok now i remind you of what i stated:
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I'm not a clairvoyant to understand what is going on here, the best way to make the votes of the opposition wastes is to bring up more than just one STRONG contender to Karsai. Right or wrong?
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Now suppose I didnt even read the news before you copy paste it here.
What does it show?!
Hell the fraud issue is over shadowed by the joy and happiness that a lot went for voting?!!?
Who is the Independent source who claims there was no fraud? THE UN!? THe same which once claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?
Karzai rivals signal end to election crisis
Monday 11 October 2004, 23:22 Makka Time, 20:22 GMT
Counting will take three weeks to complete
The crisis surrounding Afghanistan’s historic presidential election appears to be ending as President Hamid Karzai’s chief rival said he and other candidates were withdrawing their rejection of the weekend poll.
No one has portayed any election issue as fraud. If there are irreglarities it is more than likely because the AFGHAN people held their first real election in 25 years! Good on 'em!
How much OIL will flow into their pockets?! Has that been decided yet?
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How much OIL will flow into their pockets?! Has that been decided yet?
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Man! Are you jelous? Ask Powell and he will some oil flow in your pant-pockets too.
These MAToo PiThoos would never want peace in Afghanistan. They love to see Pushtoon blood flowing through the streets. 3 years and we have historic elections. Let's rejoice and congratulate our neighbors. Oh I know, while living in Bihar, you may not have Afghanistan as your neighbor.
I hope that Afghan peace will speed up the destruction of Kayda and their supporters. Let's hope and pray that these MAToo Pithoos will be sent to Jahanam (Hell) so that Pakistani-Shias, Pakistani-Ahmadis, and Pakistani-Christians could live in peace.
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Let's hope and pray that these MAToo Pithoos will be sent to Jahanam (Hell) so that Pakistani-Shias, Pakistani-Ahmadis, and Pakistani-Christians could live in peace.
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Such is the state of our Pithus of the West that they wish Hell upon Muslims to stay on the good side of their Western compatriots. Not to worry, justice will be served inshallah.
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Man! Are you jelous? Ask Powell and he will some oil flow in your pant-pockets too.
These MAToo PiThoos would never want peace in Afghanistan. They love to see Pushtoon blood flowing through the streets. 3 years and we have historic elections. Let's rejoice and congratulate our neighbors. Oh I know, while living in Bihar, you may not have Afghanistan as your neighbor.
I hope that Afghan peace will speed up the destruction of Kayda and their supporters. Let's hope and pray that these MAToo Pithoos will be sent to Jahanam (Hell) so that Pakistani-Shias, Pakistani-Ahmadis, and Pakistani-Christians could live in peace.
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Oh yes Pow-wow can deliver the oil that the whole administration of Dubaya, Mr. Halliburtion and I am confused Rumsfeld stole from Iraq. But than you wouldn't understand living in amreekka and trying to please the Pow-wow's.
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MAToo Pithoos will be sent to Jahanam (Hell) so that Pakistani-Shias, Pakistani-Ahmadis, and Pakistani-Christians could live in peace.
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Batman wants 20% of minorities in Pakistan to live in peace and the rest of 80% can go to hell. Man you are so full of you know what.
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Batman wants 20% of minorities in Pakistan to live in peace and the rest of 80% can go to hell. Man you are so full of you know what.
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I would say even less than 20%. Not to mention that they inlude Non-muslims too. Aunty Batman is just another schmuck in a long line of drones that have been brainwashed by the West.
"How much OIL will flow into their pockets?! Has that been decided yet?"
Nearly 3 years ago I heard all of this breathless exclaimation about how th Afghan war was over oil . So pray update us... Any progress on that oil thing? Is the pipeline almost built? Nearing completion?
What's more, are there huge business opportunities OTHER than oil cropping up for the Afghan people, (other than poppies)? Even if a pipeline ran across Afghanistan, the roaylties would go to the Afghan people, and the oil would come to Pakistan, or perhaps Pakistan to the ever growing India... What harm comes from this? Or is your feeble and unprovable theory that the war in Afghanistan was all because of oil? Even if this is true, damn, after 25 years of war, if it takes money to buy peace, I think the people of Afghanistan would be all for it! Nothing else has stopped them from fighting each other!
For all the shrill concern about the poor downtrodden Muslim people of Afghanistan, certianly no one in the Muslim world has stepped forward with any help whatsoever. You have had three years to help the Afghan people, and NADA! So even if a pipline is built, it would employ thousands of Afghans, and provide resources to a desperately poor country.
The message of these elections is that the Afghan people want a strong leader and peace.......
^ What pipeline. First let your puppet have control over whole of Aghanistan, not just Kabul. Than the construction will start. Till than dream on.