Afghanistan Elections

Minerva Dear…

Its Very Hard to Differeniate Between Talibaan & Al-Qaeda… They are alomost the Same… May not be Organization Wise but.. Rules Wise…

As U said… War Lords are Back in Full Swing… So… i wont agree… COZ… War Lords are back… Ya.. thats True… BUT… Now.. They are ONLY SO CALLED LORDS… :smiley:
Coz.. The Power they Had 2 or 3 yrs Ago is not with them…

US has… Made them very Week quite Dramaticaly… But.. still they are not yet Harmless…

As far as the Talibaan and Pushtun support for them is concern… As The majority in Power now adays are Non-Pukhtuns… So.. its Obvious that… Anything Against the Ppl in power from any one will be supported by Pukhtuns…

I have seen many TAJIK and Hazara Ppl saying… Talibaans Were Atleast Better security wise…

Few days.. back… (Quoting one of My Frend) In mian kabul near the Area where the Blast Took place few days back…

There was a Small Car accident… One of the Car had SHUMALI ppl… (the ppl now adays in power) they had som hot words Exchange… and… Shumali Guy took out his GUN and.. Shooted them… and.. went off.. without any fear…

^ This is not against or in Fav or Shumali or talibaan … If U look at Afghan History…

All were BAD to others when ever thay were in Power…

WE cannot Blame.. either one… coz… they have seen very barbaric actions from their Opponents… in Past..

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another explosion in kabul on eve of polls…

Kabul explosion on eve of polls
Afghan police secured the area after the blast
A loud explosion in the Afghan capital, Kabul on the eve of the country’s presidential elections, was caused by a rocket attack, officials said.

There were no casualties in the blast, which happened in the embassy area of the city, a police chief said.

Afghanistan has been braced for attacks ahead of presidential elections, which take place on Saturday.

The Afghan government has said it is confident the vote will go ahead despite threats of violence.

The rocket attack, in the early hours of Friday, happened near the main headquarters of international peacekeepers, and within a few hundred metres of the US and German embassies, officials said.

In Washington a spokesman for the State Department said: "There was a rocket explosion 200 metres outside the embassy compound.

“There are no casualties in the embassy compound and all staff have returned to quarters.”

Assassination attempt

The US-backed president, Hamid Karzai, faces 17 other candidates in the election, and is widely expected to win.

Mr Karzai’s vice presidential running mate Ahmed Zia Massood survived an assassination attempt on Wednesday.

There are about 9,000 Nato troops in Afghanistan to help stabilise the country and provide security for the election.

More than 18,000 US-led troops are still in Afghanistan, battling rebels in the south of the country, thought to be linked to the Taliban regime ousted by the American-led invasion in 2001.

^ So much for everything under control :rolleyes:

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khuda khair rakhay....i can see some serious bloodshed in upcoming afghan elections....i hope every thing will go peacefully inshallah....
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Thanks for the good wishes PD. Don't worry about these 2-bit M*Too terrorists. Their Saudi funding is cut-off and their logistic supply from Wana is zero at this stage. These M*Toos will bark a bit and release a lot of hot air and other greenhouse gasses.

Afghanistan may go through few difficult moments but the future looks good at this stage.

May God save Afghan Pushtoons from the Arra-bobos and the PiTAAs.

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Someone needs to get their head out of the sand.

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*Originally posted by skhan: *
...Someone needs to get their head out of the sand.
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Old Commie lefti Pushtoons and their bed-fellow beardos will always laugh their a$$es off at good news about Afghanistan.

Antiobl…

I wish ur wish comes true.. and.. Afghanistan see the bright future… I am workin for Afghanistan since 3 yrs now… And… I have spent lots of time there with diff ppl and agencies etc etc…

Things Seems to be okie.. there… BUT…

Just Remember one thing.. WHEN THERE IS USA at the GAME in some COUNTRY… the Future of that country CAN NEVER BE GOOD…

USA is like… PARASITES… they Suck Blood out of the Bodies of the Nations…

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All 15 opponents of karzai have boycotted the election. This ink used on thumbs supposed to be permanent, but it came off easily and it was impossible to prevent someone form voting twice. This staged election is another move by US to keep its puppet Karzai in power.

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All 15 opponents of karzai have boycotted the election. This ink used on thumbs supposed to be permanent, but it came off easily and it was impossible to prevent someone form voting twice. This staged election is another move by US to keep its puppet Karzai in power.
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Agreed! I'm waiting for the next rocket attack on Karzai. The Agents of US dont deserve better!

tsk, now that was harsh Ali.

Anyhow, I guess the rest of the contenders have realized the futility of standing against Karzai. He certainly has an edge over others considering the logistics and help thats being provided by US to him.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041009/D85K2UBO0.html

Women Reveal Wishes for Afghan Election

Oct 9, 2:34 PM (ET)

By STEPHEN GRAHAM

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) - As Bibi Gul voted in Afghanistan’s landmark presidential election Saturday, she cried recalling how she lost her husband to war, raised five children under the Taliban and was threatened with having her hand chopped off if she dared cast her ballot.

“I have so many troubles, sometimes my mind is not right,” the 45-year-old said in a crowd of blue and green burqas at a women-only polling station in Kandahar, the former capital of the oppressive regime.

“If Karzai becomes president, maybe we will get some land and be able to go to Mecca. What we need is Islam, which is peace.”

More than 4 million women registered for Saturday’s presidential election, 41 percent of the total number of 10.5 million people signed up to vote in this country of an estimated 25 million.

Many more were voting among Afghan refugee communities in Pakistan and Iran. Moqadasa Sidiqi, a female student whose family fled Kabul in 1992, became the first Afghan to cast a ballot in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, at 7 a.m.

Although opposition candidates claimed the polls were unfair because the ink used to mark people’s thumbs so they vote only once rubbed off too easily, women here hoped the polls would mark the advent of female suffrage in a country steeped in conservative Islamic tradition.

The figures for registered women voters were a revelation, suggesting Afghan women are determined to help draw a democratic line under a quarter-century of strife. Still, they lag in much of the Pashtun-dominated south, where many still believe women should leave their home only in a medical emergency.

In the courtyard of the Haino School for Girls close to Kandahar’s main mosque, scores of women lined up Saturday morning, chatting excitedly and pressing around the doors of the small classrooms used as makeshift polling booths.

The ballot was supposed to be secret. But election staff said no screens were delivered in time, leaving women to mark their papers - some with a loop, some with a line and others with a squiggle - in front of the poll worker handing them out.

After squinting at the pictures on the long green ballot - most of the women were illiterate - almost all chose Karzai, a fellow Pashtun. An ethnic Hazara challenger appeared to be running a distant second. None was considering the lone female candidate from distant Kabul.

Women registered most avidly in cities such as the relatively cosmopolitan capital, and across the north and center, where ethnic minorities take a more relaxed view of patriarchy. Competition between ethnic groups in mixed areas also spurred tribal elders to marshal a bloc vote from their women.

At a polling station in Kabul, Gul Sum, a 60-year-old ethnic Hazara housewife wearing a black veil, showed off a thumb stained with the ink from special pens shipped in from India. Some of them apparently ran dry.

Sum said the vote would help glue the country back together after more than two decades of violence and poisonous ethnic division. She prayed that militants would not make good on their threat to attack the process.

“In the line waiting with me, there were women from all the different groups: Pashtun, Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara,” Sum said. “For the first time, women are having a say in the future of Afghanistan. We are fed up with war.”

There was gratitude but no thumping for women’s rights, which are enshrined in Afghanistan’s new constitution, passed in January.

“I came to vote for Karzai to bring peace and make sure the young men have jobs,” said a woman in Kandahar hidden by a yellow burqa whose voter ID card identified her only as Fatima, 45.

Four women were among the dozen election workers killed by anti-government militants during the months of voter registration, but Fatima said she had no fears about voting because her husband had given his permission.

She said she was relieved that the Taliban’s draconian interpretation of Islamic law, which saw millions of women and girls forced out of work and education and whipped in the street for showing as much as an ankle, had been swept away.

Still, Bibi Gul said that on her way to the polls she received a reminder of the hardline regime - which was ousted by an American bombing campaign in late 2001.

“A man with a scarf around his head asked me where I was going. He said: ‘If you vote, I will see it from your thumb and I will cut off your hand,’” she said.

She said she could not afford to take a taxi home to avoid the man, but would pay no heed.

“We don’t want those people. They did nothing for us.”

That last comment sums up the accomplishments of the Taliban! Now, if the rest of the do-nothing naysayers will quit their caterwalling and get out of the way, maybe the Afghanis can finally move forward! Good luck to them!

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tsk, now that was harsh Ali.

Anyhow, I guess the rest of the contenders have realized the futility of standing against Karzai. He certainly has an edge over others considering the logistics and help thats being provided by US to him.
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Some one has to speak out loud FOR US all here....

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Some one has to speak out loud FOR US all here....
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These "For us" are bunch of MAToo PiToo followers of Hamida Gul and Aslam Begum, hell bent on killing Pushtoons. These beardo-balloons of hot-air have no shame when they make jack-a$$ (khoti) and lullo slogans like the one:

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*Originally posted by Ali_R: *
I'm waiting for the next rocket attack on Karzai. The Agents of US dont deserve better!
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Have you no shame that you want Pushtoons to suffer for another 25 years just so that you can see more blood gore. Aren't you guys content with the blood flowing in Sialkot, Multan, Taba, and now in Lahore. Have you got no wish to see the creator one day and answer him why you supported fasad (anarchy) on His earth? Enough of this Pushtoon blood you all Khans from Luckhnow. Go live in the land of King Lallu to match his idiotic lifestyle and leave us alone in Pakistan. We deserve peace and not the Mullahtic ramblings.

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*Originally posted by antiobl: *

These "For us" are bunch of MAToo PiToo followers of Hamida Gul and Aslam Begum, hell bent on killing Pushtoons. These beardo-balloons of hot-air have no shame when they make jack-a$$ (khoti) and lullo slogans like the one:

Have you no shame that you want Pushtoons to suffer for another 25 years just so that you can see more blood gore. Aren't you guys content with the blood flowing in Sialkot, Multan, Taba, and now in Lahore. Have you got no wish to see the creator one day and answer him why you supported fasad (anarchy) on His earth? Enough of this Pushtoon blood you all Khans from Luckhnow. Go live in the land of King Lallu to match his idiotic lifestyle and leave us alone in Pakistan. We deserve peace and not the Mullahtic ramblings.
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Khan Baba,
Relax! Make yourself calm down. YOu not scaring me but ur blood pressure is.
He is a CIA Agent, living in exile since yrs and now when they need a puppet he fitted idealy into this scenario!
Do you care about your Afghanistan?! Your post dont display this more over a blind folded fool filled with hatred for the Arabs!

Batman, can you tell us how pushtoons are not going to suffer for 25 more years by bringing America’s puppet in to power? By exploiting Afghanis voting rights and holding this staged elections?

Despite the cynics here, the Afghanistan elections have to be counted as an unbelieveable success.

Voter registration was beyond all expectations. Millions of Afghans waited patiently for hours to vote. (At great personal risk) Women voted in great numbers. The Taliban did not disrupt the elections. The Afghan people have proved that they do not want totalitarian regimes, they want a voice.

Are the elections perfect? No, what did you expect from a country that has had 25 years of non-stop war? But by all accounts international observers say that the vote was reasonably reliable, and that if there are irregualrities that they will be independently investigated.

The bravery and courage of the Afghan people has been demonstrated at the ballot box. War fatigue, and the search for a better life have motivated the Afghan people to start to help themselves. A great success regardless of the results....

Yes unqualified success. Salute to America to pick a guy, plant him on Afghanistan and than Saddam and Mubarak style hold elections and now he will be declared winner by an overwhelming majority.

The only show better than this was the “shock and awe”. :rolleyes:

Funny how voting for American puppets is considered success. Even more so when these so called “elected leaders” will have control only over a few buildings in Kabul :hehe:.

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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
Despite the cynics here, the Afghanistan elections have to be counted as an unbelieveable success.

Voter registration was beyond all expectations. Millions of Afghans waited patiently for hours to vote. (At great personal risk) Women voted in great numbers. The Taliban did not disrupt the elections. The Afghan people have proved that they do not want totalitarian regimes, they want a voice.

Are the elections perfect? No, what did you expect from a country that has had 25 years of non-stop war? But by all accounts international observers say that the vote was reasonably reliable, and that if there are irregualrities that they will be independently investigated.

The bravery and courage of the Afghan people has been demonstrated at the ballot box. War fatigue, and the search for a better life have motivated the Afghan people to start to help themselves. A great success regardless of the results....
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Are you really from Ohio and not from Crawford TX or Wyoming?
I do agree with you that elections Afganistan went without a hitch. It is a great victory for the people of Afghanistan to go and cast their votes no matter how much the media (arab or western) labels it as "rigged", abd yes they are courageous to go cast their votes with no fear from beardo's. I hope the same results from Iraqi elections. This will be a great victory for US, west and the village idiot from crawford. As far as losers crying "no fair" , well that happens everywhere. So stay tuned for bickering coming soon to your favorite news outlet near you.

The utter irony of these of you here is that if Afghanistan succeeds, you people will be crying in your oatmeal about a "success for the west". Eleven million Afghans voted. The braved attacks, and cold weather to stand in vulnerable lines for hours. Does that tell you something?

First, if they were convinced that the elections were rigged, would they turn out at all? Second, when people risk thier lives in a political process, they beleive in the process. I do not care a whit if Karzai is elected. Any legitimate leader will do. The Taliban are obviously either very weak, or scared of attacking a popular process, and alienating the masses. It has to tell you something about the thinking of the Afghans.

Sorry to piss in your Cheerios, but something good just happened... And, ahem, this sort of puts Afghanistan AHEAD of Pakistan in terms of voting for leaders.......