Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
Were you born yesterday? I don't like kids who want to hold my finger and then start talking bigger than me.
Is this individual an Afghan or Indian? Some of his rebuttals are hilarious...!
Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
Afghanistan involved itself as early as 1948, promoting and supporting Pushtonistan movements in Pakistani territories. Afghanistan never accepted the borders between the two countries which had been in place 50 years before Pakistan was even created. Later years, the people there were too involved fighting among themselves or growing opium to really care for what is going on around them.
I understand your ideas and more or less agree with them. But please don't twist history so much.
Relations between Afg and Pak should be based on mutual respect. Only peace can ensure sustainable developments both sides of the border.
Go and learn some real history, Britain created pakistan for its own goals of containing USSR so Jinnah (British Agent) was tasked and he sold the idea of Pakistan by using islam. How can a person who has three dogs, never prays, drinks and no one has seen him praying can create a muslim country. Now a days Pakistan serves as a laboratory for extermist ideas to be tested, which is another purpose of Britain and the wider western world.
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Afghanistan offered itself to be playground for Russia, then US and then rest of the world jumped in, don't be whining.
and now you are the playground?
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Were you born yesterday? I don't like kids who want to hold my finger and then start talking bigger than me.
I am not one of those who thinks that a kid has brain than a CHA CHA...
Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
Is this individual an Afghan or Indian? Some of his rebuttals are hilarious...!
Afghan and Indian friendship is good, pakistan would make it sweeter
Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
and now you are the playground?
No, Afghanistan is still the play ground, some people are trying to sneak here and play.
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Afghanistan is not the play ground of India and Pakistan (both were enslaved by brits for 200 years), so both should back off with their filthy games. India has contributed hugely in the last decade in the reconstruction of Afghanistan and Afghans see India as a friendly country. New Delhi is hoping for an Afghanistan not dominated by Taliban. What is Pakistan hoping for?
I can understand your disappointment. Had Pakistan not jumped in, your friends from Russia would have taken over Afghanistan. Pakistan had to get involved in this greedy game of power because it was sitting next to a battleground where an expansionist superpower was on a rampage. Another superpower with a wealthy Arab partner was on our back with sticks and carrots. We had to do it anyway even if the US and Saudis would have not pushed us into it.
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I don't understand why Jamait-e-Hami version is supported here? Mardood Zia-ul-Haq involved in this war to get billions from SAM, introduced jehadi culture, resulted millions of refugees in Pakistan which is still bleeding. Pakistan army should abandon the idea of arming Shaitan Taliban which has already bitten the butts of those who created this demon. Let India take over Afghanistan and deal with this demon cult knows as Taliban.
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you reminded me this ajuba of landan sharif :).
Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
No, Afghanistan is still the play ground, some people are trying to sneak here and play.
Your Karachi is the urban warfare play ground, your sunni-shia is the sectarian play ground, your ethnic violence is the separatists play ground, your TTP is the Afghan Taliban play ground etccccc......
and don't forget when you became a playground as was the case back in 1971 you balkanized, but when Afghanistan was the play ground it never did
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Afghanistan is not the play ground of India and Pakistan ?
You are right, its not a play ground of India or Pak but of big powers like USSR/Amreeka... Thanks for educating us.
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Your Karachi is the urban warfare play ground, your sunni-shia is the sectarian play ground, your ethnic violence is the separatists play ground, your TTP is the Afghan Taliban play ground etccccc........
At least we do not earn half of our GDP through selling opium and heroin.
You still haven't answered my question. If things in Pakistan are much worse than those in Afghanistan, why Afghan refugees (the biggest refugee population in the world) not return to safe and prosperous homeland?
I don't understand one thing. When we mostly agree with your views, why do you still need to twist and exaggerate facts.
Afghans showed amazing resilience against British 100 years ago while people in Today's India and Pakistan bowed down easily. It has been the infighting (instigated and backed by world powers) that was primarily responsible for creating the vacuum that Taliban filled. While everyone here admits that supporting taliban was a terrible thing to do, you do not need to put all the blame on Pakistan. Afghans are now polishing shoes of the biggest sponsor of Taliban. No issues there?
Re: Afghan civil war - Pakistan's options
Your Karachi is the urban warfare play ground, your sunni-shia is the sectarian play ground, your ethnic violence is the separatists play ground, your TTP is the Afghan Taliban play ground etccccc......
and don't forget when you became a playground as was the case back in 1971 you balkanized, but when Afghanistan was the play ground it never did
No, Pakistan is paying the price of playing humanitarian with war-lord mentality nation. Pakistan should have never allowed Afghanis into Pakistan. There are many simple facts which are too complicated for your little mind.
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India has been actively trying to secure a toehold in Afghanistan to become a headache for China and Pakistan. And no one would be more happy to see Pakistan dislodged from Afghanistan. While we do not condone what Pakistan did in Afghanistan due on whatever pretext, it is also a fact that India is also indirectly responsible for the bloodbath in Afghanistan. And what New Delhi is doing and hoping for now?
I couldn't understood why we played role in Afghanistan during Taliban takeover but what India is doing now in Balochistan from Afghanistan does give bit of justification. No matter how much dangerous it is but we have no option but to ensure Afghanistan is not used for anti Pakistan activities. We paid for our activities in Afghanistan and hopefully India will pay the price for it's dirty work.
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No, Pakistan is paying the price of playing humanitarian with war-lord mentality nation. Pakistan should have never allowed Afghanis into Pakistan. There are many simple facts which are too complicated for your little mind.
We know the little mind of little people...
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I couldn't understood why we played role in Afghanistan during Taliban takeover but what India is doing now in Balochistan from Afghanistan does give bit of justification. No matter how much dangerous it is but we have no option but to ensure Afghanistan is not used for anti Pakistan activities. We paid for our activities in Afghanistan and hopefully India will pay the price for it's dirty work.
Provide a proof that India is using Afghanistan to destabilise Pakistan. As far as I know Bugti was killed by black faced Musharaf who had too much of ego THAT YOU WONT EVEN WHAT WILL HIT YOU...... pfffff now don't cry putting the blame on others.
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At least we do not earn half of our GDP through selling opium and heroin.
You still haven't answered my question. If things in Pakistan are much worse than those in Afghanistan, why Afghan refugees (the biggest refugee population in the world) not return to safe and prosperous homeland?
I don't understand one thing. When we mostly agree with your views, why do you still need to twist and exaggerate facts.
Afghans showed amazing resilience against British 100 years ago while people in Today's India and Pakistan bowed down easily. It has been the infighting (instigated and backed by world powers) that was primarily responsible for creating the vacuum that Taliban filled. While everyone here admits that supporting taliban was a terrible thing to do, you do not need to put all the blame on Pakistan. Afghans are now polishing shoes of the biggest sponsor of Taliban. No issues there?
When Afghans were converting you to Islam it was all ok for them to live amongst you. The entire Gujarat Population was converted by the Ahmad Shah Abdali to Islam. I wish Afghans had left you guys Hindus and Sikhs so now you can practice your bangra with them openly on the streets of Lahore.
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When Afghans were converting you to Islam it was all ok for them to live amongst you. The entire Gujarat Population was converted by the Ahmad Shah Abdali to Islam. I wish Afghans had left you guys Hindus and Sikhs so now you can practice your bangra with them openly on the streets of Lahore.
The Afghan rulers were just looters, nothing else. Pakistanis were converted to Islam by sufis. By the way Muhammad bin Qasim entered Sindh, Balochistan and Multan much before Afghan looters had converted to Islam. As far as Gujarat is concerned, its still majority non muslim.
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The Afghan rulers were just looters, nothing else. Pakistanis were converted to Islam by sufis. By the way Muhammad bin Qasim entered Sindh, Balochistan and Multan much before Afghan looters had converted to Islam. As far as Gujarat is concerned, its still majority non muslim.
Then get ready to be looted again in the form of TTP
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Then get ready to be looted again in the form of TTP
yes they are also looters like the predecessors before them...history just repeating itself.