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yes they are also looters like the predecessors before them...history just repeating itself.
Also ask your gov't not to name their rockets after them either. Name it Jinnah, no problem with that.
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Also ask your gov't not to name their rockets after them either. Name it Jinnah, no problem with that.
Naming things is their problem not mine. They might consider them heroes, but they are not my heroes.
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An Afghan friend of one colleague said ‘Afghans are at peace, when they are at war’. 
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Its about time the government stopped glamorizing looters only reason being that they share the same religion. If Mahmood Ghazni/Ghauri were warriors and defenders of Islam, whats wrong with Mullah Umar and Mullah Fazlullah? The invasions did not begin in 1000 AD, before that the Ghazanavis were in the form of Mongols, Turkemen etc...
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Its about time the government stopped glamorizing looters only reason being that they share the same religion. If Mahmood Ghazni/Ghauri were warriors and defenders of Islam, whats wrong with Mullah Umar and Mullah Fazlullah? The invasions did not begin in 1000 AD, before that the Ghazanavis were in the form of Mongols, Turkemen etc...
ISI, Pak Army and Punjab are also looters of KPK and Balochistan resources, so simple get out......
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When Afghans were converting you to Islam it was all ok for them to live amongst you. ......
It is still all ok for Afghans to live in Pakistan. We have hosted them for over 3 decades and still do all we can to help them.
I hope the sponsors of extremism leave Afghanistan as soon as possible and the country becomes peaceful.
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ISI, Pak Army and Punjab are also looters of KPK and Balochistan resources, so simple get out......
Kpk and balochistan are part of Pakistan, the afghan refugees are free to move back to Afghanistan.
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Mr cheetah keep in mind this is a Pakistani forum, no more trolling will be tolerated.
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It is still all ok for Afghans to live in Pakistan. We have hosted them for over 3 decades and still do all we can to help them.
I hope the sponsors of extremism leave Afghanistan as soon as possible and the country becomes peaceful.
The UNHCR pays in dollars to Islamabad for keeping these refugees in the country. But the fact is that Pakistan is paying a hefty price for being the longest-serving host.
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The UNHCR pays in dollars to Islamabad for keeping these refugees in the country. But the fact is that Pakistan is paying a hefty price for being the longest-serving host.
er....no they don't. Where did you come up with that? The UNHCR does nothing of the sort.
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UNHCR - Pakistan
UNHCR - UNHCR Global Report 2012 - Pakistan
Err… yes they did. Not just the UNHCR but also the Afghan Commissionerate in Peshawar got funding for a very long time (don’t know the current status though). The question of whether this funding was allotted in the right places is a no brainer. I wish I could quote some personal references here but lets just say someone very close to me was one of the people in charge of making sure the aid was distributed to the right places and when he spoke up against the rampant corruption, he wasn’t kept alive for long. The UNHCR in Peshawar is a big joke and you can bet most of the numbers in these reports about providing aid are fudged up.
Personally, its comments like “these ingrate refugees should be kicked out all all borders sealed” that upset me the most. And then Pakistani’s wonder why Afghans never liked them despite hosting them and supporting them for such a long time. Even though Pakistan’s involvement in Afghan affairs has been undeniable, most of the Afghans I know have been very grateful for being allowed to settle in Pakistan even though it wasn’t easy for another third-world country to take such a large number of refugees for an indefinite period of time at once. Most of these people didn’t even get a chance to pack their bags and say proper goodbyes before they had to leave their country to save their lives. They wouldn’t even invest in simple household stuff under the pretense that things in Afghanistan will settle soon and they’ll be back but months turned into years and decades and once they realized things were probably not going to get stable in Afg for a very long time, they made use of whatever few resources they had to settle in. So all this hospitality goes out the door if your host keeps telling you to go back to your country when you have no choice but stay to make ends meet and keep yourself alive.
I agree, the situation in Afghanistan may be a lot better now, but it’s just not easy to just “pack your bags” and move out from a place you’ve called home for decades. Not to mention the growing number of second and third generation Afghans now born and raised in Pakistan who relate to it’s culture and recognize it as their home. The rights of these generations is still unknown. I don’t know if many of you are aware that these children don’t even have an equal right to a public education in Pakistan or to integrate in the mainstream workforce. Private schooling is only available to those who can afford it which doesn’t compound to a very big number so a lot of these children are out on the streets and don’t know what to do with their time once they take their metric exams. Forget the right to a citizenship status or being allowed to own property legally (I know there are a lot of illegal property owners), these refugees don’t even get the basic human right to an education and constantly been made to feel like outsiders! Respect goes both ways.
P.S: Please don’t hate me. I love Pakistan. Also, I’m married to a Pakistani 
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We know the little mind of little people...
I am glad you are learning, some day you will read your posts again and would want to delete them :)
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while Karzai is hugging Taliban, so enjoy 
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I am glad you are learning, some day you will read your posts again and would want to delete them :)
Don't you need some IQ for that? BTW I wonder what is he trying to say, when there are numerous reports out there from very credible sources that will prove without a shadow of a doubt that A-Stan is a haven compared to Pak. Per UNHCR A-Stan is "THE BIGGEST" Source of refugees to the world, when there is the next wave we should provide a safe passage to India, I only hope he is in the crowd to enjoy the hospitality.
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Funding for UNHCR comes from member states of the UN and comes from voluntary contributions. At no stage does the UN be it UNHCR or any other UN entity pay the Government of Pakistan or Pakistan a sum of money to host the Afghan refugees.
That was my point.
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^ true!
Still no denying that a lot of funding for Afghan refugees has been provided to the UNHCR and Afghan Commissionerate in the 80's and 90's that was never accounted for. Wonder what the auditing process is for these NGOs.
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Most of the afghan refugees are living in cities, so how can UNHCR fund them? Pakistan should have kept the refugees confined in the camps.