Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
this world is full of people that are tempted to do things immoral. It is our job to protect ourselves from these people. If one fails to do so.....they will have to suffer the consequences.....unfortunately.
then u have a very sad perception of this world
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Come on, get a clue..women do wear clothes to make themselves feel good about themselves. There is not one single reason why they wear the clothes they do. Some will wear a different colour as a change of mood, or because they're bored..even some fat women wear very tight clothes..not everything boils down to sex. It's like saying bodybuilders are inviting people to rape them, or why bodybuild if they dont want to look attractive to the opposite sex? I can tell you now, most bodybuilders aren't interested in what other people think, most of the really heavily muscles bodybuilders arent even attractive to most people. Not everything a person does is for the pleasure of another person. Some people really do not care what other people think. This way of thinking is confined down to "religious" folk as far as I'm aware.
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Here is the whole situation; this imam is not what most people are making him out to be. According to only person that met he, this woman, says that he is a wonderful person and what he said was not to offend anyone. According to her, it is just a blooper and so why most people are over here do not take it as it is.
Seems to me they are the ones with prejudice.
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It wouldnt surpise me if he paid her to say it to save his skin. He did, after all, say he was ill to get some sympathy after it as well.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
this world is very sad indeed...not just MY perception...look around u!
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
How sad...women have to show their body to the world to make themselves feel good. what a shame!
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
this world is full of people that are tempted to do things immoral. It is our job to protect ourselves from these people. If one fails to do so.....they will have to suffer the consequences.....unfortunately.
If someone leaves a bike unlocked, and it gets stolen, then yes, the owner of the bike did do something wrong and should accept some of the responsibility. However, if he used a lock and someone was able to break it, the responsibility is now not with the owner of the bike, but the person who broke the lock and stole the bike. Now, what is the thing a woman does wrong by wearing say a tight dress?
Say a diamond on display in a high security building..One day gets stolen. The responsibility for stealing the diamond is with the thief, not the building security who did what they had to do to try and keep the diamond safe. If the security isnt good enough, then they can be told (as if they need to be), that it needs improving. But the responsibility for the theft is not with them. Making the analogy (people to objects which is silly), a woman is on display, gets attacked, she fights back and so on, the responsibility is with the attacker, not with the woman.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
agreed
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
ONE WHO COMMIT THE CRIMES, AND THOSE WHO BACK THE CULPRITS, ARE JUST THE SAME.
THIS IS A PETTY AND A WEAK ARGUMENT THAT WOMEN’S DRESSES PLACE PRESSURE ON MEN FOR THEM TO RAPE THE WOMEN.
yes, women and men should dress aprropriately.
but keep your balance straight
INCLUDE THIS IN YOUR OPINION AS WELL.
men ought to lower their gaze.
do not subscribe to one sided laying of burdens and blames.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
Not all do. Some might do, whatever floats their boat, and if they do it's their choice...a concept that is lacking from some people's thought processes here.
Personally I dont think there's anything wrong with being appreciated. Should an intelligent person not feel good about having a good mind, or a woman not feel good about having a good body?
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
even if he didn't lock the bike it still doesn't mean it was ok for someone to steal it
just because you leave something in your car that someone takes does not mean its ok to take it
you are not supposed to touch something that doesnt belong to you
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
see this analogy wont fly…because the thing is…the owner of the bike locked it up so he did everything he could do to protect what was his…however the woman who is wearing that dress is leaving her “door” wide open :halo:
how? by revealing her body..her curves. She is just wearing a thin piece of cloth that covers her skin…but u can still see everything.
ever seen how rachael on friends with her tight shirts? I rest my case!
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
I wonder if she was really raped. Thank God I have never been raped (May Allah keep me safe) but I still find those remarks extremly disturbing and every normal girl who has respect for herself should. I think they should be disturbing for normal men as well.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
just because you leave something in your car that someone takes does not mean its ok to take it
you are not supposed to touch something that doesnt belong to you
no one here is saying it was ok for her to raped or that the rapist isnt at fault.
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This is completely retarded. I cannot believe the type of support people are giving to that degenerate Imam.
Anyone who is defending this is completely out of their senses. Why should you care what a woman wears? Thats her business, not yours. Your business is to not look at that "tempting piece of meat" and get on with your life. To even begin to justify rape through this argument is utterly retarded. I don't care if anyone gets offended by these words. Such stupidity deserves no sympathy.
Once again, get things in perspective. Its your moral duty to not get tempted, however easily it may be, and get some self control as a human being that you claim to be. If I leave my expensive BMW outside a ghetto in NY without any security systems installed and the door unlocked and that car eventually gets stolen, is it my fault for being a retard and doing such a thing? You betcha'!. But more than that, the person who stole the car is still the sinner since he...well...stole it. He can, in no friggin way what so ever, justify this by saying that he got tempted to steal the car. Rape is twenty times worse than stealing and using the same stupid justification for rape is infinitely more retarded. If you show any sympathy for a rapist than you are truly a sad, sad person than I can truly not describe with words (atleast not with the words that are able to get through the filter).
PS. How convinient that there is some random girl that claims to have been raped and shows understanding for the statement made by the Imam. No one was charged in her rape so I call BS. Thats not to say that I'm a retard like so many on this board and that I am compltely oblivious to the fact that thousands of rape vicitims around the world do not file a charge against anyone due to the shame and tough trial and tribulations that would result, but in this case, it is quite obvious that something is going on in the background that we are not seeing.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
so what are you saying..? why are you defending his comments when its pretty obvious thats exactly what he's saying..? This is just bizzare.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
Take a nice bike, locked up, a thief comes along and steals it. Take a nice woman, rapist comes along, rapes her. Is it the fault of the bike for looking nice? No. Is it the fault of the lock for being weak?..Is it the responsibility of the thief for being tempted by the bike? Totally. So, is it the fault of the woman for looking nice? No. Is it the fault of the woman for being weak?.. Is it the responsibility of the rapist for being tempted? Totallly. You will notice I left a gap for “Is it the responsibility of the woman for being weak?” Do you think it’s the fault of women for being physically weak?
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
perhaps u misunderstood what he said...he nvr said the act of rape itself was ok and that she deserved it...i think people are looking too much into what he said.
He just made a comment about the way she was dressed.
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one can not do much about a bike as far as the way it looks..perhaps u can cover it up or put it in the garage...i dunno but as far as that woman is concerned...she could cover herself....
im not saying that the woman was in the wrong..nor am i saying that the rapist had rights over her. All im saying is that there are evil ppl in this world...and we as women have to protect ourselves by dressing modestly.
You cant keep evil away from u (its all around us) but u can keep yourself away from evil.
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Yes it is fault of a woman that she is showing her weakness by wearing thin clothes.
You cant keep evil away from u (its all around us) but u can keep yourself away from evil. As AE SAYS
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
who she??
he was commenting on all women in west.
Re: ‘Rape victim’ defends besieged Australian cleric
So what if he was commenting on all the western women is this a lie?what he was saying about dress