My reply to brother Iqbal:
Reference: Sahih Muslim Volume 2, Book of Marriage, Chapter 3, page 346.
“Muhammad b Ali narrated on the authority of his father Ali that Allah’s Apostle (saw) on the Day of Khyber prohibited for ever the contracting of temporary marriage and eating of the flesh of domestic asses.”
Subsequently two more Hadith follow on the same page, both supposedly narrated by Ali to Ibn Abbas saying the same thing, both containing the word PROHIBITED FOREVER.
Take note: according to Sunni scholars, Sahih Muslim is more authoritative and is on of the two earliest collections of Hadith than any of the Sunan Books that you have referred to. Although it is very interesting to note that Sahih Bokhari, an even earlier version, only has one quote about Mutah being forbidden on Khayber and NOTHING about it being prohibited on the conquest of Mecca. So please tell me how can Mutah be forbidden on the Day of Kyber FOREVER and then allowed during conquest of Mecca two years later? That’s your theory about the “timeline” of Ahadith going out of the window.
Now I reproduce SAHIH Ahadith (most of which have been given in earlier posts by Brother Gandalf) which attribute the prohibition of Mutah to Umar. The Prohibition, NOT the “reminder of prohibition”:
- Sahih Muslim Book 007, Number 2801:
...... When 'Umar was Installed as Caliph, he said: Verily Allah made permissible for His Messenger (may peace be upon him) whatever He liked and as he liked. And (every command) of the Holy Qur'an has been revealed for every occasion. So accomplish Hajj and Umra for Allah as Allah has commanded you; and confirm by (proper conditions) the marriage of those women (with whom you have performed Mut'a). And any person would come to me with a marriage of appointed duration (Mut'a), I would stone him (to death). Qatada narrated this hadith with the same chain of transmitters saying: (That 'Umar also said): Separate your Hajj from 'Umra, for that is the most complete Hajj, and complete your Umra.
Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v1, p157, Tafsir al-Qurtubi, v2, p365, reported from al-Darqunti:
"some one asked Abdullah Ibn Umar about Mut'a (of Hajj), he said: It is permitted (Halaal). So he was asked: your father forbade it. He said: Do you think that my father can forbid what the Prophet did? Should I follow what my father said, or should I follow what the Prophet ordered? The man said: Of course the orders of the Prophet (PBUH&HF).
Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, v3, commentary of verse 4:24
Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, p52:
Two Mut'a were practiced during the time of the Prophet: Mut'a of women and Mut'a of Hajj, but I forbid both of them and will punish anyone who practices either."
Now the first Hadith states clearly that not only did the Holy Prophet think it permissible but it was also ordained in the Quran. The second part of the first Hadith Hazrat Umar attributed the prohibition to himself.
Second Hadith, Hazrat Umar’s own son clearly stating not only was it NEVER forbidden by the Prophet but only by his father, Hazrat Umar. Are you going to tell me this Sahih Hadith too is not acceptable because Abdullah “wasn’t aware of its supposed prohibition”? Never mind the fact that in the third Hadeeth Hazrat Umar himself attributes the prohibition of Mutah to himself AFTER stating clearly that it was allowed by the Prophet? There is no mention of “I remind”.
I look forward to your answers but I am not interested in your or any other commentators convoluted interpretation of Hadith, I want you to explain to me as it is word for word and how from these three very authentic Hadith you come to the conclusion of it was a reminder when it was clearly anything but one.
As for you not accepting Jabir ibn Abdullah’s Hadith, and impossible as it is to believe that he didn’t know what he was going on about, in this light, it does as someone stated, bring to question the whole veracity of the literature you so wilfully quote. So I will not even go there.
