Re: A question for fellow guppies on Quran and sunnah
Looks like you haven’t read any of the previous posts before you start giving your judgements and asking questions.
Why did Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. gave the following hadith’s before his shadat.“For whoever I am his Leader (mawla), 'Ali is his Leader (mawla).”
**“The affairs of people will continue to be conducted (well) as long as they are governed by the twelve men, all of them from Quraysh.” **
“For whoever I am his Leader (mawla), 'Ali is his Leader (mawla).”
“I am the city of knowledge and Ali is its gate; whoever intends to enter the city should come to its gate.”
“Are you not pleased to have the position (manzilah) in relation to me as that Aaron had in relation to Moses?”
**“It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. I am leaving for you two precious things and if you adhere to them both, you will never go astray after me. They are the Book of Allah and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul Bayt. The two shall never separate from each other until they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise).” **
And We made of them Imams to guide by Our command when they were patient, and they were certain of Our communications. Quran[32:24]
Had you read my previous post you won’t be asking the same questions again… Let me requote it for you to save you from the trouble of going back and reading it.
As far as Hazrat Ali A.S. not reminding people about this divine right the following sermon answers the question.
If had I attempted to pluck the unripe fruit of Caliphate then by this the orchard would have been desolated and I too would have achieved nothing, like these people who cultivate on other’s land but can neither guard it, nor water it at proper time, nor reap any crop from it. The position of these people is that if I ask them to vacate it so that the owner should cultivate it himself and protect it, they say how greedy I am, while if I keep quiet they think I am afraid of death. They should tell me on what occasion did I ever feel afraid, or flew from battle-field for life, whereas every small or big encounter is proof of my bravery and a witness to my daring and courage. He who plays with swords and strikes against hillocks is not afraid of death. I am so familiar with death that even an infant is not so familiar with the breast of its mother. Hark! The reason for my silence is the knowledge that the Prophet has put in my bosom. If I divulge it you would get perplexed and bewildered. Let some days pass and you would know the reason of my inaction, and perceive with your own eyes what sorts of people would appear on this scene under the name of Islam, and what destruction they would bring about. My silence is because this would happen, otherwise it is not silence without reason."
**http://www.al-islam.org/nahj/default.asp?url=5.htm
**Let me quote you the part of the sermon again incase you missed it
" Let some days pass and you would know the reason of my inaction, and perceive with your own eyes what sorts of people would appear on this scene under the name of Islam, and what destruction they would bring about. My silence is because this would happen, otherwise it is not silence without reason."
TELL ME WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE WHO DIDN’T HAVE PROBLEM WITH THE FIRST 3 CALIPHS WHO FOR THEIR GREED OF KHILAFAT LEFT THE FUNERAL SERVICES OF THE BELOVED PROPHET P.B.U.H. AND WHEN HAZRAT ALI A.S BECAME KHALEEFA EVEN THOUGH HE MADE IT CLEAR BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO FOLLOW ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES QURAN AND SUNNAH.. THEY GO AGAINST SUCH A WISE CALIPH…AND NOT ONLY THAT MAWIYAH WHO CAME TO FIGHT AGAINST HAZRAT ALI A.S (AMEER UL MOMINEEN) FOR THIS GREED OF KHILAFAT THEY EVEN REGARD HIM HAS AMEER UL MOMINEEN..WHY DON’T YOU GUYS REGARD YAZEED AS NAUZUBILLAH AMEER UL MOMINEEN HE DID THE SAME THING HIS DAD did.. CAME TO WAR AGAINST SON OF HAZRAT ALI..THE FIRST TWO CALIPHS LEFT THE FUNERAL OF PROPHET MOHAMMAD P.B.U.H. YAZEED ARMY KILLED IMAM HUSSAIN AND HIS FAMILY AND LEFT THEM IN THE LAND OF KERBALA FOR THE GREED OF THIS KHILAFAT…CAN’T YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW MESSED UP YOU BELIEVES ARE??? ISLAM WAS STILL A GROWING PLANT.. PROBABLY HAZRAT ALI DIDN’T WANT MUSLIM UMMAH TO FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER… AND MADE IT CLEAR THAT HIS TEACHINGS WILL BE FROM QURAN AND SUNNAH AND WHAT THEY WANT IS SOMEONE FOR THEIR WORLDLY DESIRES AND APPARENTLY THEY CAME AND FOUGHT AGAINST HIM… AS Imam and protector of islam.. Hazrat Ali A.S. had to make it clear so everything is black and white for us… TO ME ITS GOOD HAZRAT ALI A.S. MADE THAT CLEAR SO PEOPLE DON’T CALL HIM GREEDY FOR POWER WHEN PEOPLE LIKE MAWIYA AND HAZRAT AYESHA CAME TO WAR AGAINST HIM..HE MADE HIS STAND CLEAR EVEN BEFORE HE BECAME KHALEEFA THAT HE WILL BE OUT THERE TO FOLLOW QURAN AND SUNNAH… ELSE HE WOULD BE BETTER OFF AS AN ADVISOR…NOW IF YOU HAVE BRAINS YOU WOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO JUDGE WHOEVER COME AGAINST HIM…WHAT COULD HIS INTENSIONS BE..FOR SURE HAZRAT ALI DIDN’T HAVE ANY GREED FOR POWER?
An example for him being quite can be seen right here…
.When the Holy Prophet died Abu Sufyan was not in Medina. He was coming back when on his way he got the news of this tragedy. At once he enquired who had become the leader and Chief. He was told that people had paid allegiance to Abu Bakr. On hearing this the acknowledged mischief-monger of Arabia went into deep thought and eventually went to Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib with a proposal. He said to him, "Look, these people have by contrivance made over the Caliphate to the Taym and deprived Banu Hashim of it for good, and after himself this man would place over our heads a haughty man of Banu Adi. Let us go to Ali ibn Abi Talib and ask him to get out of his house and take to arms to secure his right." So taking Abbas with him he came to `Ali and said: “Let me your hand; I pay allegiance to you and if anyone rises in opposition I would fill the streets of Medina with men of cavalry and infantry.” This was the most delicate moment for Amir al-mu’minin. He regarded himself as the true head and successor of the Prophet while a man with the backing of his tribe and party like Abu Sufyan was ready to support him. Just a signal was enough to ignite the flames of war. But Amir al-mu’minin’s foresight and right judgement saved the Muslims from civil war as his piercing eyes perceived that this man wanted to start civil war by rousing the passions of tribal partisanship and distinction of birth, so that Islam should be struck with a convulsion that would shake it to its roots. Amir al-mu’minin therefore rejected his counsel and admonished him severely and spoke forth the words, whereby he has stopped people from mischief mongering, and undue conceit, and declared his stand to be that for him there were only two courses - either to take up arms or to sit quietly at home. If he rose for war there was no supporter so that he could suppress these rising insurgencies. The only course left was quietly to wait for the opportunity till circumstances were favourable.
Please read the hadiths and ayats quoted in this forum… before you jump to conclusion… Not only have I quoted the hadith’s but also given references from sunni books. Prove me they are wrong..rather than giving your judgements..without any proper references.
A lame argument that proves nothing.. you cannot ignore the fact that firqa-e-Jaffaria..believes in 12 Imam… who are examples when it comes to knowledge … Imams Like Hazrat Ali A.S, Imam Jaffar-e-Sadiq A.S. Imam Hussain who sacrificed his family in the way of Allah SWT to defend islam… unlike Imam Hanafi, Shafai and Maliki, three of our Imams were there during the time of the Prophet, and there aren’t any difference in teachings of any of the imam… not to mention the 12th Imam is Imam Mahdi.. for whom Holy Prophet P.B.U.H. said the following.
The following are only some of the traditions about Imam al-Mahdi which Sunnis admit to their authenticity and existence:The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “Even if the entire duration of the world’s existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left (before the day of judgment), Allah will expand that day to such a length of time, as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my Ahlul-Bayt who will be called by my name. He will fill out the earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice and tyranny (by then).”
Go to the following websitef or references.
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter2/2.html
The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “The Mahdi will appear in my Ummah. He will appear for a minimum of 7 or a maximum of 9 years; at that time, my Ummah will experience a bountiful favor like never before. It shall have a great abundance of food, of which it need not save anything, and the wealth at that time is in great quantities, such that if a man asks the Mahdi to give him some, and the Mahdi (AS) will say: Here! Take!”
The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “We (I and my family) are members of a household that Allah (SWT) has chosen for them the life of the Hereafter over the life of this world; and the members of my household (Ahlul-Bayt) shall suffer a great affliction and they shall be forcefully expelled from their homes after my death; then there will come people from the East carrying black flags, and they will ask for some good to be given to them, but they shall be refused service; as such, they will wage war and emerge victorious, and will be offered that which they desired in the first place, but they will refuse to accept it till they pass it to a man from my family (Ahlul-Bayt) appears to fill the Earth with justice as it has been filled with corruption. So whoever reaches that (time) ought to come to them even if crawling on the ice/snow since among them is the Vice-regent of Allah (Khalifatullah) al-Mahdi.”
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter2/2.html