Re: a gud daughter in law…
@ diwana** And Allah SWT said he made his creation in pair.
It is so saddening that the liberal kind of women try to prove mujarrad (single life) is not such a problem.
Remind you, I never said men should live or can live happily without women.
In every post I said comparatively speaking men do not need women as much as women need men.
Prove me wrong please.
See that is exactly where you are wrong, in the comparison. I did prove you wrong by giving you all those examples of women living happily w/t men. Real life examples of women around me. Whereas you just keep on stating like what you say is certified eternal truth.
Yes a pair - both need each other to be happy, but I wasn’t born in a pair, were you? And does that mean we’re not individuals… just pairs.**
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Your own made up idea. God did not even approve more than one, so why even try to think God’s will ever be thousand husbands for a woman? How did you even come up with this idea?
Whatever God’s will is has been sent by now. So why try to add/speculate something new to his will? Hain ji?
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ARE YOU STUPID OR SOMETHING??! Or maybe you take things too literally. Who is advocating a thousand husbands?! I am sure everyone else here has gotten my point. It was not an idea, it was an example to say that nothing can be done w/t Allah’s will. I am sure you’re trolling cz even you can’t be that dumb… can you?
**For the last time please let me clear and read it a 100 time.
Both men and women need each other. No doubt or argument there.
Duh!****
But women need men MORE in this world than men need women.
That is what I absolutely, utterly disagree with.**** The MORE is your own stupid idea to make yourself feel more needed I suppose… well sorry to disappoint you.
Living in fantasy is not a virtue. Realistically speaking, a single woman will still need a male person every once in a while to go through the harsh realities of life.
What about all the women who are doing it without them, oh or may be you don’t consider them as women.
Not a man. Since man by virtue of being man can handle many issues better than a woman.
OMG! LOl! That says it all. I knew you were the patriarch type from the you talk about women, but this is going too far really. You think people’s abilities to handle things comes down to their gender! Do I need to say more…
Do I need to repeat that my friend?
No please don’t or I’ll break another rib trying not to laugh too hard.
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**Define weakness.
Get a dictionary.
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There are so many women out there single, but still living their life happily. Nothing breaks them, not separation, not divorce - nothing.
**Are you basing their happiness on not dealing with separation, divorce or beak ups?
Really? That is a very narrow spectrum.
Ah yeah… isn’t that what this discussion is focusing on… yes it’s narrow cz I have narrowed it down since you told me to go ask such women if they are happy and so I did.
This also assumes EVERY MARRIED/ATTACHED woman is unhappy since she has to deal with these issues. (Oh you said that below..I thought you would not mean that. LOL)
LOL for sure… who said that!? Oh you are free to assume whatever you want… but no i don’t assume that. And no that’s not what I said below or anywhere.
Living life in this world certainly has these issues but that is just the tip of an iceberg.
There are so many daily issues which a man or woman goes through and there comes a point where if she is with a man those issues get resolved in her favor.
I am sorry I am not buying such self-made crap. Wait… that means everything you said till now… since you have a habit of stating opinions (dumb ones too) w/t really giving supporting facts or examples.
I am surprise that so many pages have passed and the fantasy of women living single and safe/happy is still strong. Love it!
Oh yeshhh. You keep saying it’s a fantasy and I’ll keep breaking yours.
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They are single moms proving they are a thousand fold better and stronger then men.
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No ma’am. Not true. You are making it up just to try to prove your point.
So true. I am not making it up. Haven’t you ever seen or read the interviews of such women. Well you should… even though I doubt you’ll come out of your fantasy world. This genre of contemporary women is very strong in all aspects of her life. That’s a fact even fanatic patriarchs have admitted. She is a house keeper, a strong woman with a career and at the same time an excellent mother.**
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I know you are. It is called “Angoor Khattay Hain”.
I don’t understand what that means but I am sure it’s another cheap pun or just a personal attack!**** I couldn’t care less.
**Women like that are all around me. They are my teachers, my neigbours, people I really look up to. Why would any man or woman choose not to marry. It’s a natural thing, but to say women are more desperate to get married. In fact I think men are more desperate to get a wife. If my brother has got the same education and upbringing as I, then why can’t I be as independent as him.
**Eduction is not the standard here.
What is then? Oh yes… either they are men or women - that’s the standard right.
Emotionally and physically most women are dependent on men and nothing WRONG in admitting it**.
I think its the exact opposite and really there is no wrong in admitting it so why don’t you start with this acceptance. It’ll do you a lot of good.
**Only so called ‘freedom fighter women’ believe against it.
Only insecure men who love to belittle women to make themselves feel better, believe against that.
Majority of women, is just happy to admit it and not ashamed of having men around for their various needs.
Majority of men don’t think like that thank God, since a woman’s strength doesn’t make them run and hide like a pansy but they appreciate it just as it is.
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Men do have their own weaknesses and needs. Sure. Nothing wrong in admitting that.
And women have their own, never denied it in the first place. As they are both on an equal ground.
Stop potraying women as weak, cz they aren’t. My tenant’s are a newly married couple. The guy has a job but he is dependent on his wife’s salary to pay the bills - not to mention for all the meals she cooks for him and also the car she bought with her own money. And there are so many men like him out there.
**You want me to lie?
Were you doing otherwise all this time…
OK. Women are stronger than men in all respect. They do not need men. Men need women more. How does that sound? Happy? 
Wow! you do have the capacity to tell the truth! I am so impressed! How did you bring yourself to even say that… Nothing a chauvinist like you says can make anyone happy here.**
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The example you gave is not something to make it a generalized this still falls under what I said.
Oh so only you have the right to generalize… i wasn’t aware of that sorry… but i should’ve noticed since that’s all you’ve done up till now. At least I am providing real-life examples from my life to support my generalizations. Falls under what… that women are tiny little weaklings that need men more than men need them…? Um NO it doesn’t.
Women need men more.
Sigh! Oh wait you just love saying that don’t you. You prolly put yourself to sleep muttering that. Well carry on repeating something a thousand time doesn’t make it true.
So with your example, you are aware the vast majority of men are the one who are bread winner or earn more than women. (And still vast majority of women have no problem with that)
Did I say that?! Where did I say that? You just assume too much. I gave you an example of how a man was so dependent on his wife.
So now, do you agree considering your own example, women need men more?
Go read my example again… this time very very closely… for it to seep into the thick folds…
Your answer then would be yes!
I can give my own answers… yes being a woman I am capable of that! Surprised? and the answer is a big fat NO.
Isn’t it what I said?
No it isn’t.
**My teacher is a divorced woman with a kid. I have never seen a happier woman my life. She doesn’t tell everyone to get a divorce or how stupid men are but she’s living on with her life just the same. She’s a beautiful woman and still gets proposals even with that divorce tag but she has chosen to reject them when they don’t suit her. She has hobbies, friends, she travels just like any man out there.
**Trust me. Neither a normal man nor a normal woman can be the happiest person as a single entity.
She would not come to you all crying about being single, would she?
Oh so you know what’s going through her head… better than she does… wow were you like a psychologist or something since you know who is actually happy and who isn’t just by hearing about them…?
Wait so you are devoiding her of any chances of happiness until she gets married again… and so all divorced women are suppose to give up on their happiness till they find someone who’d take 'em. WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT?! I’m sorry if I am getting personal but its your call… what if one of your women gets divorced (GOD FORBID) she has no right to live a happy life?!
**The truth is because of the stupid haughty and self-obsessed men in our society - mostly married women seem a lot more unhappier than the unmarried ones.
**Now I heard it all.
Good.
This statement needs to be framed to show how unreal these so called freedom fighters, liberal women could be.
Where do you come up with such terms… freedom fighters? Freedom from what? we have all the freedom we want.
Come on.
These sick ideas assumes so many false beliefs and generalization.
I am talking about all those women who go through such horrible ordeals at the hands of their husbands… physical abuse, burn cases, in-laws keeping the girl in chains - there are countless such stories surrounding us every day.
1- Men in our society. lol
What so funny?
2- Are Self obsessed and haughty. lol
Yes most of such men are - who think they are superior than womankind and that women have no rights whatsoever, again it’s sad not funny.
3- Because of that mostly married women are unhappier than unmarried women. LOL
It’s because of such cases women think twice before getting married - the increasing domestic violence cases, in our country for instance.
**Yes they are ‘Freedom warriors’ in the sense that they need to get free from such mentality as yours. Women need men as much as men need women to live a happy life - deal with it.
**I already proved my point using your own example didn’t I?
Seriously, you proved nothing and I mean nothing. Empty but strong words - yes very well used, but just simply stating your opinion and expecting it to be taken as a universal truth doesn’t account to proving anything.
I do not have to ‘deal with it’. Hurts women themselves unfortunately on the long run believing in fantasy or trying to pollute other women minds.
I am sorry to pop your little bubble but you’re the one living in a fantasy - the women need men more fantasy. Where you see women as freedom fighters and men as kings ruling over women. Thinking of women as weaklings and then pitying them by letting them make you happy. Of course you wouldn’t want to deal with it, cz that would mean coming out of that fantasy of yours. Yes the real life is gonna be hard for someone with your notions so just stay cuddled up in that safe little world of yours if you don’t want to get hurt - cz when you’ll see happy single women all around you and you’ll tell them you’re not allowed to be happy according to my theory cuz I said so! They’ll have a nice laugh like I am having right now.
With such exasperating views and gender-biased judgments I wonder who’s the pollution.**
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