a gud daughter in law....

[redvelvet]

Re: a gud daughter in law…

@pakwoman

^ lol Thank you for admitting defeat! Yes any excuse will do. My pleasure!

UFFO

Here, let RV give this thread a more positive direction with GREATER substance. Pakwoman, shame on you for using words like stupid and dumb. Why limit yourself yourself like this when there are better options? Such as absurd, ridiculous, tunnel-visioned, narrow-minded, lousy, nonsensical, moronic, etc. Sadly, improving the quality of the adjectives will not result in a better or open-minded response from your opponent. :no:

[sarab]

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[diwana]

Re: a gud daughter in law....

Told ya! "Something tells me that aint gonna happen!" ;)

[sarab]

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Told ya! "Something tells me that aint gonna happen!" ;)

pakwomen annihilated you, accept it.

[PakWoman]

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@diwana

Edit your post, or apologize and I am all there for an answer.

I will not. You deserved every word I said. You can choose not read and reply.

@diwana

The bold sentences are exactly what I have said repeatedly. Equal does not mean same. Thanks.

SOME women just don’t get it!

Besides, when it comes to emotional support, still women need men more than men need women in THAT aspect, not that men never need that. I am aware I have opened another Pandora box but this is a very subtle point.

The point of debate was women need men more than men need women, that was your stance - now you’ve chosen to back down, even if subtly. Great. This discussion is over.

@redvelvet

UFFO

Here, let RV give this thread a more positive direction with GREATER substance. Pakwoman, shame on you for using words like stupid and dumb. Why limit yourself yourself like this when there are better options? Such as absurd, ridiculous, tunnel-visioned, narrow-minded, lousy, nonsensical, moronic, etc. Sadly, improving the quality of the adjectives will not result in a better or open-minded response from your opponent. :no:

lol! Yes I need to learn more adjectives to gain credibility. Thank you RV

@sarab

100% Totally agree!

@pakwomen, I don’t know how you had the patience to write all that. Diwana just does not seem to get anything! I’m sure he’s on the autistic spectrum, or recovering from a recent brain injury.

Thanks. Lol! i like the use of adjectives here. I’ll be noting them down

[sarab]

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This is not over, Diwana will come back with google copy-paste pseudo psychoanalysis and request you 'read between the lines', 'don't ask me to explain it' etc etc.

[diwana]

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I will not. You deserved every word I said. You can choose not read and reply.

I knew that. Hence I said what I said. Aint gonaa happen means I had very low expectation from you to be sensible! ;)

The point of debate was women need men more than men need women, that was your stance - now you've chosen to back down. Great. This discussion is over.

*Still is. You could not prove it otherwise. *

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[redvelvet]

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This is not over, Diwana will come back with google copy-paste pseudo psychoanalysis and request you 'read between the lines', 'don't ask me to explain it' etc etc.

Yes but the psychoanalysis is rendered useless ( and a joke ) by the mere inclusion of a winking emoticon. Winks imply trickery and jest.

[Sehrysh]

Re: a gud daughter in law....

Ladies, no point in engaging in a back-and-forth with a poster who writes because he is his own best audience. Look at most of the other guys who post - they're actually willing to engage in a dialogue and will give respect to women, in addition to considering what they have to say regardless of whether they agree with the content.

Some posters who shall rename nameless, live in a world of their own imagination where they believe that the only person who brings anything of value to a conversation is himself. We've all come into contact with such people in the real world the ones who love to "hear themselves speak" and refuse to give no credence to anyone else.

So the best policy is to ignore them - stop being his audience.

[PakWoman]

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^ hear hear! :k:

[Reha]

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@rizla86

I think the conversation in this thread is heading nowhere at all. Everyone needs to understand that men and women are EQUAL. However, equal does not mean they are the SAME. Women are different from men, so their reasons for being dependent on a man are different from a man’s reasons to be dependent on a woman. A man may seek emotional and physical fulfillment from the woman, the woman on the other hand may seek support in the practical aspects of life. It certainly does not mean inferiority for either the woman or the man. There is no line drawn here or no clear cut definition of who is dependent on whom more. There is no doubt that two are stronger than one and both men and women need each other, albeit for different reasons.

Agreed. Women and men need each other in different ways but one does not need the other more.

@diwana

Equal does not mean same. Thanks.

You never said that. You have continuously said that women need men more than men need women. That is not true. It never will be. Maybe in your life, you have seen such examples but the reality both need each other EQUALLY.

SOME women just don’t get it!

Your posts arent exactly full of wisdom either…

Besides, when it comes to emotional support, still women need men more than men need women in THAT aspect, not that men never need that. I am aware I have opened another Pandora box but this is a very subtle point.

Again. What a ridiculous statement. Of all the marriages I know of, the men NEED emotional support. All the success they attain is because of the women providing emotional support, motivation, being their partners and pushing them to do better and better. Behind every successful man is a woman. Remember that. You will never be successful without a woman, heck you wont ever be able to have a child without a woman.

Equal is not what women have an issue with here.

More is. You are trying to **lower **women here to something they’re not and that is gunah. Your own mother is a woman do not forget that.

Also, women are stronger…that is a fact proven by Allah swt. Men look stronger because they’re bigger but isnt it funny how even though men look tough, they still cannot take part in a miracle that washes a woman of all her sins? When she gives birth, the pain is so immense her child is forever in her debt. So, if men are so strong physically and emotionally…why do they not do this?

When a man and women separate, the courts hand over the kids to the women naturally. If a man wants his kids, he has to prove she is mentally unfit. Ive barely ever seen single dads. Ive always seen single moms. Its because they can handle it. Men cannot. They would make a mess out of things if they were to become single fathers. Just bring home the bacon alright? Its what you’re good for is what the courts say and make him responsible for child support. If he was so strong alone, why could he not handle a mere child? He cannot. Allah swt has given woman so much that she always has more to give.

She will always be tougher and stronger but some men just do not get it. They think a tear is her weakness, when it actually is her strength to be able to feel.

They think child birth is a weakness when Allah swt gave us the gift of being able to experience life.

They think her stature (height) is her weakness because she is smaller. THis small women can hold and carry a child for 9 month, labor, give birth, nurse it and go through this cycle multiple times. I dont see any 6 foot man doing more than that.

What men can do, women also can. Its not hard to work and make a living. I do it everyday. But what a woman can do - a man cannot. Both need each other.

diwana, all of what I wrote above does not need to be stated because they’re all facts of life. Its not going to change. When you highlight and say that men do not need women and women need men more and blah blah blah, you make yourself look weak because you need that. I understand these ideas make a man feel like he is at least good for something. But **lowering **a woman to make yourself feel useful is a self-esteem problem (people who have healthy self-images do not need to lower others to feel good about themselves). That speaks of deeper issues and probably needs some work.

[Reha]

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@Sehrysh

Ladies, no point in engaging in a back-and-forth with a poster who writes because he is his own best audience. Look at most of the other guys who post - they’re actually willing to engage in a dialogue and will give respect to women, in addition to considering what they have to say regardless of whether they agree with the content.

Some posters who shall rename nameless, live in a world of their own imagination where they believe that the only person who brings anything of value to a conversation is himself. We’ve all come into contact with such people in the real world the ones who love to “hear themselves speak” and refuse to give no credence to anyone else.

So the best policy is to ignore them - stop being his audience.

:k:

[Shak]

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In today's world with women given an equal part in our society and some countries realising sexism is not the way, noone needs the other more than the other. Both need each other as much as the other.

I doubt a man can spend all his life without a woman, a man has emotions too and at one time or another he will need a woman too. To deny that is denying the truth. The same is true otherwise. Hence both need each other at one point or another otherwise their life would be 'missing' something.

[NomiCA]

Re: a gud daughter in law....

who was the person who replied to the point raised about '' man needs woman less than a women need man''??

That person is responsible for derailing this thread..

[Reha]

Re: a gud daughter in law....

who was the person who replied to the point raised about '' man needs woman less than a women need man''??

That person is responsible for derailing this thread..

You're so smart NomiCA. With that, we shall go ahead and close.