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no one would give a damn to this news, but if a 11 year old girl actually got married with parents and her consent, in a Muslim country, we would have global moral police all over Islam and its child molestation practice
yeah, a 10 year old making a mistake isn't as much news as grown ups making the mistake for the 10 year old. if the parents of the 10 year old got her preggers and celebrated it and such, that'd be the equivalent of what you say.
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At the age of 32,I am sitting here as a bachelor like a `nose closed canon',and here one 10-13 year old child has done the majestic work. Kudos to him :)..Keep up the good works boy.... :)
you are one creepy uncle in the making.
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no one would give a damn to this news, but if a 11 year old girl actually got married with parents and her consent, in a Muslim country, we would have global moral police all over Islam and its child molestation practice
Well two wrongs don't make a right, that is if you believe that a child marrying/having sex/giving birth is wrong.
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no one would give a damn to this news, but if a 11 year old girl actually got married with parents and her consent, in a Muslim country, we would have global moral police all over Islam and its child molestation practice
^ DITTO.
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yeah, a 10 year old making a mistake isn't as much news as grown ups making the mistake for the 10 year old. if the parents of the 10 year old got her preggers and celebrated it and such, that'd be the equivalent of what you say.
Exactly. Good point :)
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I think mother should have the custody , but of course under some kinda supervision . The parents needs to feel the responsibility of their child .
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I think the 10 year old needs some serious chittars first 
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^^
Some serious whacking would help...
Re: 10 year old mother
yeah, a 10 year old making a mistake isn't as much news as grown ups making the mistake for the 10 year old. if the parents of the 10 year old got her preggers and celebrated it and such, that'd be the equivalent of what you say.
Agree..
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^^ ** Some serious whacking would help...**
How??
Re: 10 year old mother
yeah, a 10 year old making a mistake isn't as much news as grown ups making the mistake for the 10 year old. if the parents of the 10 year old got her preggers and celebrated it and such, that'd be the equivalent of what you say.
i think you are seriously confused about having consensual sex and the institution of marriage. I was talking about marriage, not a preteen girl having sex or getting pregnant. There are Nikahs that happen when girl is preteen (both in India and Pakistan and both amongst Hindus and Muslims), rukhsati almost always happens after teens. Even if you go back in your lineage, I can guarantee that you will find that your nani or dadi or their mothers got married at 15 and had first baby at 16. Do you see any dysfunctionality in your family because of that. I am sure none. Me neither, and i know that my grandmother got married in her mid teens.
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Agreed :k: Where are all bashers I am missing them in this thread.
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tlk, are you saying married at 10 but not living together or having sex until later? is there anything in islam that forbids a husband from having sex with his wife until she is in her mid teens or whenever? my understanding is marriage is only for sexually mature girls, and afterward she is not permitted to deny her husband's demands.
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Getting to point I remember movie "Juno" And that is really happening sad. Girl should be given responsibility of her baby so she should learn life is not all having fun but it comes with responsibilities. Under her parents supervision she should take care of her baby.
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tlk, are you saying married at 10 but not living together or having sex until later? is there anything in islam that forbids a husband from having sex with his wife until she is in her mid teens or whenever? my understanding is marriage is only for sexually mature girls, and afterward she is not permitted to deny her husband's demands.
in Islam, engagement has no legal value. Nikah without Rukhsati is what was/is in practice. Although if non-rukhsati miyan/biwi develop a physical contact, they are not going to be punished , but its is strongly suggested by scholars that they should never be left alone until rukhsati happens
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well then what you are referring to is more engagement, and not marriage isnt it? i've not heard of anyone complaining about people getting engaged at a young age.
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Nikah is more serious of a contract than engagement. It requires to set meher and fill out nikah nama which is a prenuptial agreement. Also girl cannot marry anyone else when in Nikah of a person (whether rukhsati or no rukhsati). Engagement does not have to any of those rules.
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No, this is only true of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi scholars, **it’s a made-up desi thing..
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Islamically they can have sex right after nikah if they choose but our culture likes to pretend otherwise..
The correct info: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=10585&CATE=1
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Its not a made up thing. We are discussing in another thread that if rukhsati never happened, there is no need for iddat in case of khula or talaq. If husband/wife are enjoying sex chori chuppay without ruksati, first of all if pregnancy occurs and hubby denied that its his child, who is going to believe the girl?
second, if sex is happening chori chuppay and talaq happens, should a girl do iddat or no? In first case it would be a badnami and if she does not do iddat, then its a bigger violation of allah's law. Scholars of Bangladesh/india/Pakistan are not stupid idiots. They worked hard and spent life in learning islam hence give such fatwas. In fact, our scholars are far better than scholars of any other country of present time including arab countries.
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^If ‘our’ scholars are so good how come pretty much no-one apart from desis follows them when it comes to this issue?
Desis need to stop thinking ‘what will others say if this happens or that happens?’ when the truth is that after just nikah the couple are 100% halal for each other, despite what our culture or elders might say..
If the girl gets pregnant after nikah there should be no problem if there were witnesses at the nikah and the marriage contract was signed, unfortunately too many do treat nikah as some sort of engagement or trial period and rukshati as the wedding, if this was really the case why don’t Muslims in other cultures insist that the couple must wait to have sex till then??
Quite a lot of our desi ‘scholars’ are notorious when it comes to dodgy rulings from saying it’s preferable for the DIL to live with the inlaws and extended family in their home to insisting it is their duty to serve them when scholars from practically every other Muslim culture say the polar opposite.. A lot of them can’t seem to shake of those remnants of Hinduism..
Again:
'With regard to your second question,** it is not haraam according to sharee’ah for a man to have intercourse with his wife after the nikaah (conclusion of the marriage contract) and before the wedding party.
Whatever happened after the nikaah is halaal (permissible), so there is no scandal involved and no need to fear the consequences. If a man divorces his wife after the marriage has been consummated, then she is entitled to keep the entire mahr (dowry)'**
Btw sorry Barbie, ur thread is being derailed.. I will shut up now 