Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

Whether there was need of MQM to fight quota system or not, there was definitely no need to arm the youngsters and create a mafia/gangster. MQM sowed the seeds of bhatta-khori in city and Zulfiqar Mirza/PPP took it to a dangerous level of killing if bhatta not paid.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

But, in MQM's "defense", arms were brought to the fight by JI. That is another thing that JI didn't fare well in karachi.

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Unfortunately, what OP has shared is correct. My area is a stronghold of MQM, surrounded by goths under amn committee's influence. Armed clashes between the two over who to collect bhatta, from where and whom, have become a norm for some time now. Just yesterday there was a huge gun fight to get control of a weekly bachat bazaar with nearly 500 stalls. MQM has been collecting from rupees 100 to 200 from every stall. Everyone is certain that if amn committee gets control, they would ask for at least 5 times more.

Quite astonishingly, after emergence of this so called amn committee, MQM has started appearing as the lesser evil.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

So you are o.k. with MQM collecting bhatta but not o.k. with amn committee. yehan bhi discrimination.

Karachi will never see peace if that is the attitude of people living in Karachi.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

No sachay bhai, I am not at all o.k. with anyone collecting a single paisa by force. Please don't read what's not written between the lines.

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Problem is that if people don't pay to MQM at max they will be "robbed" of valuables but in case of amn committee you lose your life. Had we a functional governance in city/country with control on crimes this wouldn't have happened. Had Naseerullah Babar been sincere in his operation against MQM this wouldn't have resurfaced, had Zulfiqar Mirza not provided weapons to Amn Committee hundreds/thousands wouldn't have lost their lives.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

Forget it, sachay is the type who never "gets it". Otherwise, jiyalas won't exist.

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If what you are saying is the truth, MQM once used to be Amn Committee of the past. If they have changed their methods, it does not mean they have become angels. MQM is responsible for hundreds and thousands of killings of innocent people.

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:hehe:

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

MQM is by no means angel we have recently seen their chief saying on the record "talwaaron se chhalni kar den gai", but for "bhatta" I have never heard they killed anyone (they killed political rivals or their own "estranged" leaders). Amn committee now sowed the seeds of killing for bhatta, very soon the city will see the war mentioned by Lucid i.e. war of bhatta-jurisdictions.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

Are you being serious?

Do u live in Karachi?

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

may be you can enlighten me about bhatta related killings prior to 2011?

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

How do you think bhatta collection is enforced? The victims get bullets, not flowers.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

When they started this trend of bhatta collection in 90s, MQM (both Altaf and Afaq groups) did kill a lot of people who tried to stand against it. The most prominent name in this regard is of Hakeem Muhammad Saeed Shaheed. He was allegedly asked to pay 20 million rupees and replied with something like "not a single penny, over my dead body." The demands back then were very high which most businessmen couldn't fulfill. It took some time for people to realize that they just can't fight the bhatta mafia, and MQM to understand that killing too many golden egg laying geese is not a sensible policy.

Amn committee, ANP, sunni tehreek, SSP and whatever groups who've comparatively recently involved in this game of easy money will learn these lessons with the passage of time. The question is, will the non-existence of law enforcement and helplessness of general public remain a constant forever?

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

Robbing - taking "chanda" forcefully.

There were some high-profile killings but I do not believe the killing was at "public" level wherever anyone/everyone is killed if bhatta is refused.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

You are either naive or you don't know what goes on. Robbery is different than extortion, that is quite obvious. Many, many people have been killed over extortion demands.

Good night.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

Laughing at yourself? Catharsis (a new term) for you.

Prove it that I show so much adoration or blind worship of altaf hussain like your pooja paati of bhuttos and you might have a point.

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i've a very basic question.
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is bhatta collection or aGhva baraaye ta'vaan prevalent in other major cities of Pakistan, like Lahore, Multan, Hyderabad, Sukkur, Peshawar etc?**

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Yes "robbing" alone is different from extortion, but when YOU demand someone (and they refuse) and then YOU rob them it becomes (type of) extortion. Then you demand them again they will be ready to hand it over to you seeing their prior experience of refusal.

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Re: Zulfiqar Mirza, PPP, Amn Committee zindabad

I've heard kidnap for ransom is taking rise in other cities as well like Lahore, not too sure how many cities are affected by kidnap/extortion.