Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Interesting read! Lets see how IK galvanizes the public before the next elections (and poses himself as an alternate to the present dispensation), otherwise I agree with the author that despite the poor performance of the government there is no other practical alternate (no other party has presence in all provinces).

I personally think that PPP will suffer in Punjab in the coming elections, especially due to the power and gas crises there (and the government’s indifference to it). In Sindh we will come to know soon if Marvi Memon can pose some threat to them.](Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army, Corruption Charges, Memogate)Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army, Corruption Charges, Memogate

Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army, Corruption Charges, Memogate

](Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army, Corruption Charges, Memogate)Pakistan’s Supreme Court pursues Swiss corruption charges against the president—but that’s not half his worries. Ron Moreau on the forces besetting the government.

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani scarcely looked like a man engaged in [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]a struggle to the political death when he arrived at Pakistan’s Supreme Court on Thursday morning, Relaxed and radiating confidence, smiling and waving to onlookers. When he left the court, one hour later, he was still grinning and greeting his supporters—but the fight was by no means over.

As devoutly as the people of Pakistan may have hoped that Gilani’s court appearance would bring a resolution of their country’s deepening political crisis, they were out of luck. Instead, the standoff in the nation’s highest levels of power seems likely to grow even angrier and more crippling in the months to come.

Gilani had been summoned to answer a contempt-of-court charge. Since 2009 the court has repeatedly ordered him to send a letter to Swiss authorities requesting that they reopen a money-laundering case against his political master, President Asif Ali Zardari. But Gilani stood his ground as always in the courtroom on Thursday, arguing that Zardari enjoys sovereign immunity from prosecution of any sort as long as he is president. “It is my firm conviction that he has complete immunity inside and outside the country,” Gilani told the judges. “In the Constitution, there is complete immunity for the president. There is no doubt about that.”

Gilani’s argument is likely to be contested when the judges convene again, on Feb. 1. “On the next date, let’s hear you convince us the issue is of the president’s immunity,” one of the judges told the prime minister. “Let’s grab the bull by the horns.” In fact, however, there seems to be some doubt as to whether the prime minister will be required to appear in person for the hearing. Meanwhile the prime minister’s lawyer, Aitzan Ahsan, hastened to assure the court that his client intends to comply with the order—eventually. “The letter shall be written when Asif Ali Zardari is no longer president,” Ahsan told the judges.

That’s the underlying question: how much longer will Zardari will hang on as president? If Gilani is found to be in contempt of court, the prime minister could theoretically be forced to step down. But the legal proceedings to make that happen would doubtless be lengthy—and even if Gilani eventually goes, Zardari can simply choose a new prime minister who can then do his best to put off writing the dreaded letter to Switzerland.

Not that Zardari is in such good shape politically. His approval rating at best is just above 20 percent. Ordinary Pakistanis are struggling to hold themselves together, buffeted by inflation, energy shortages, and worry. Steel mills, railways, the national airline and other state-run enterprises are in pitiful shape as they drain the country’s already depleted treasury. Corruption and cronyism rage unchecked.

To make matters worse, Zardari still has not lived down his reputation for corruption. Back in the late 1980s, when his wife, Benazir Bhutto, was serving her first term as prime minister, Pakistanis contemptuously nicknamed him “Mr. 10 Percent,” and in 2003 a Swiss court convicted the couple in absentia of skimming and laundering tens of millions of dollars from a Swiss contract. In 2008, after Zardari was elected president in the wake of his wife’s assassination, the Swiss closed the case at his government’s request.

Unfortunately for the president, the Supreme Court is no friend of his. It was only under relentless pressure from street demonstrations in early 2009 that Zardari reinstated the popular Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, who had been sacked by the country’s military ruler, Pervez Musharraf. Before the year was over, Chaudhry’s court had ordered Gilani’s government to take steps to reopen the Swiss case, along with hundreds of others that had been shelved by a controversial 2007 amnesty decree.

As if Zardari didn’t have enough problems, his generals hate him. “The military sees him as a man with no principles, who is prepared to be pro-American and pro-Indian without any ideology of his own,” says retired Lt. Gen. Talat Masood. “They consider him to be a parasite. They really look down on him.” The dislike has only worsened as the military’s relations with Washington have deteriorated. “The Army is unhappy with the Americans, and they are taking it out on Zardari,” says opposition parliamentarian and political columnist Ayaz Amir. “It’s the Army, the judiciary, it’s everyone who wants his scalp.”

The corruption allegations aren’t the only threat to Zardari. In the wake of the U.S. raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound last May, an anonymous memo was delivered to Adm. Mike Mullen, then chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff. The document expressed fear of a possible military coup in Pakistan and requested America’s assistance to prevent it, proposing to put the country’s military chiefs on trial and offering a free hand to U.S. forces for attacks on Pakistani soil. Although Mullen himself dismissed the memo as a hoax, Pakistan’s senior officers are said to believe that Zardari was behind it. Both Army Chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and the head of the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, have gone on record saying they regard it as treasonous. The Supreme Court is investigating, and if the memo can be traced to the president, the military (and many others) hope he’s toast.
“The military sees him as a man with no principles,” says retired Lt. Gen. Talat Masood. “They consider him to be a parasite. They really look down on him.”

At present, though, time appears to be on his side. His term of office (and those of the Parliament his party controls) won’t expire until 2013. His party and its allies are expected to prevail in the upcoming Senate elections this March, and Zardari could even call for early elections this year to ensure his hold on power.** Despite the government’s incompetence, his Pakistan People’s Party remains strong and well-organized and the only party with roots in all four provinces.**

**Zardari’s adversaries are implacable, but even if the forces arrayed against him eventually manage to nail him, what then? Pakistan isn’t likely to be any better off. “If he’s out it will mean more instability,” says MP Amir. “It will just be another mess.” **

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

It seems army would not act against government and they should not as most on this forum believe. Thus, as time is passing, I am getting pretty convinced that next government would be of PPP again. Most likely, Zardari would get re-elected as President in 2013 for next 5 years.

So, do Zardari have to worry about anything?

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

I dont see PPP winning as much seats they won in Punjab during the previous elections (riding on the BB's sympathy vote) plus the way Punjab is reeling especially after the 18th amendment compounded with the crisis due to gas and electricity. Faisalabad's industry is without gas for the 31st day today, 4 million people have been made jobless there. In Punjab, PMLN and PTI should fight it out (At present PPP would be the third party there, PPP should be the PMLQ of the previous elections), in NWFP it would be religious parties versus ANP, and then a few seats here and there to PTI, PMLN and PPP. As far Balochistan and Sindh are concerned, PPP is much better placed at the moment in Sindh and Balochistan, we will see how things go till the elections. PMLN has not been able to capitalize in Sindh and Balochistan.

PPP might still emerge as the largest party, but the party position would be quite complex.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

I think you are absolutely and entirely wrong in your analysis. Any kid will tell you that the real power base of PTI is KPK and there is absolutely no way, yes no way that any other party will beat PTI. ALL the recent polls by national/international agencies have delivered the verdict at least 100% unanimously in favor of PTI in KPK. No way the pro-Russian and Pro-India anti-Pakistan ANP will ever win from KPK in their lifetime. You only have to see their drunkard Bilour who has single-handedly driven railways to ground. Lets not forget that this party has single-handedly performed the top job for India by stopping the construction of Kalabagh dam, bringing Pakistan to its knees. I guess their indian friends would be rejoicing as ANP delivers yet another gift to India-destruction of pakistan railways, the backbone of pakistani transport infrastructure........nevertheless...........PTI WILL inshAllah win from KPK thats for sure and a sizeable chunk from Punjab. Can't say about Sindh or Balochistan since they have weird voting pattern. Sindh for example, always voting in PPP regardless of how crappy they perform.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Even if we like it or not, many Pashtuns support anp and they will win seats there. It could be a contest between anp, mma and Tehreek e insaaf, add to that mix seats of ppp and pmln. Besides one doesn't becomes an India agent by opposing a dam. To be considered a Pakistani no one needs a punjabi/Pakistan army certificate anymore.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

He is perhaps unaware of traditional politics of KP .
You can not stop JUI , PML N , ANP , PPP even PPP sherpao from taking some seats . After making PTI a Lota group position in Punjab and KP is much changed and there is no single seat for PTI in Sindh and Baluchistan . Don't depend on these paid opinion polls .
Wait for the D-day
Sab thath para reh jaiay gajab lad chalay ga Banjarah
سب ٹھاٹھ پڑا رہ جائے گا جب لاد چلے گا بنجارہ

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

PTI will surely win some seats in Baluchistan

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

he he he
I don't see Pasha in any position on next election even this government is removed .

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

just wait for another kamiyab jalsa on 23rd March

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Some one has given a good name
*Nirrale *

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Good assessment snowy winter, i do believe PTI will be in majority in KPK.

I don't expect more than a couple of seats(at most) for PTI in Sindh (Such a shame).

I epxect PTI to win 5-10 seats in South Punjab and probably 15-20 in total in whole Punjab.

Balochistan is a tough one, will depend on his jalsa.

As for PPP, i think their seats in Punjab, KPK and Balochistan will go down by at least 50% but their EXCELLENT performance will not make any difference in Sindh so they won't lose much there.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Good analysis Ali.. However I don't agree with you that PPP will emerge as the largest party. PPP at the moment is being considered anti Punjab by the masses here (Although personally I don't think that's true.. they are simply incompetent/corrupt) due to 14-20 hour load shedding here. The price of diesel/fertilizer is not helping PPP cause with rural/agriculture base. The fate of PPP in Punjab this time will be worse than 1998 election. Even some strong constituency candidates who won the election from PPP platform in Punjab last time.. are looking for an opportunity to ditch the party and look for some other ticket. I am saying this because I am in touch with some electoral regular players who consider the next election in Punjab is going to be between PMLN and PTI. Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan have realized this fact and are not firing their ammunition on PPP.. they have started to take strong positions against each other. At the moment PMLN in Punjab has an advantage over PTI in electoral politics.. but who knows how the things shape up in next few months. With media on their side PTI can make some serious dent on PMLN if they are able to keep up the momentum. PTI has to be cautious from the hawks who want to resist "electables" joining the party by chanting "lota" slogans. PTI must continue with their pragmatic approach.. SMQ has to play a vital role to keep the sense prevailing in the party.

As far as KP is concerned PTI is very well placed there. They may form the next provincial government there and win a large number of NA seats from KP. Both JUI F and ANP are bound to lose a lot in KP.

I don't know much about the electoral politics in Sind. I think PPP still appeals to the rural Sind population on ethnic grounds. They will comfortably win most of the seats from rural Sind but some strong individuals may cause some upsets.

Karachi can be a little different this time. MQM can lose 3-4 seats because mohajir vote is a bit divided this time in some affluent areas. If bogus votes are eliminated it will become a little challenging for MQM who rely mostly on mohajir votes who constitute 48% of the city population. PTI will focus on 2-3 constituencies specially in the parts of the city where there is a significant Pushtun population.. and they will try to divide the MQM's mohajir votes. The eventual dream of MQM in Sind is to get the provincial government which is only possible if PPP seats are divided in rural Sind and MQM can find a coalition partner/or enough independent MPAs who can support MQM to form the provincial government.

Nothing will change in Baluchistan. 20 seats will be won by 15 different parties who will join whoever is forming the government.

Interesting times ahead. As I predicted earlier in another thread.. it seems if nothing major happens in next few months.. PML N will form the next federal government.. and PTI will form a strong opposition. PPP with much lesser numbers will probably join the coalition to evade the corruption investigations from their present misrule. PML N also will probably prefer PPP as their coalition partner compared to MQM.

I predict the power dynamics are going to change a lot in next election. Presently the only party with support base all over the country is PTI. All other parties including PPP have become regional parties. This fact will eventually be accepted by all the players in power politics.. and we will see even less powers for the center and provinces becoming more autonomous. Not exactly a good direction for the country as we need a strong federal govt. who take up the construction of dams, a logical unified power policy, build infra structure like railways/road for better connectivity, unified monetary policies for economic development.. and take harsh decisions for over all good of the country rather than taking narrow regional approach.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Your assessment is closer to the reality on ground presently.. however In Punjab a next few months can be crucial for PTI if the wave continues.. they can perform better. Otherwise as on today I more or less agree with you..!!!

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Your assessment is closer to the reality on ground presently.. however In Punjab a next few months can be crucial for PTI if the wave continues.. they can perform better. Otherwise as on today I more or less agree with you..!!!

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

A friend of mine who returned from KP a few days ago, says that it's the PTI all over KP. Due to his nature of job, he spoke to a variety of people from the general walk of life and observed a noteworthy wave in favour of PTI. He says that people appeared sick of ANP and were not much in favour of religious parties either.

On a side note, this friend of mine cast his last vote in favour of PPP.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

I am dead sure Pakistan would do better without Zardari. Secondly, he cannot be allowed to continue just because there isn't any alternative. The desire for change is an alternative in itself.

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

But Blind worshipers ll never leave their idols :cobra: These verses truly explains them.

صمٌّبكْمٌ عمْيٌ فَهمْ لاَ يَرْجِعون

(they are dumb deaf and blind) means listen but not listen see but not see and their hearts are not ready to accept truth

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

^ u may correct PKISTANI into P*A*KISTANI in ur sign :D

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

Why Sa1eem says PPP willl be back in govt... it is simple

look at the election results of 2008,

[TABLE]

Contesting Candidates Party Affiliation Votes Polled

                    Adrees Bajwa.
                    Pakistan Muslim League (N)
                    38193

                [TR="class: AspNet-GridView-Alternate"]
                    Ch.Amir Hussain.
                    Pakistan Muslim League
                    46372
                [/TR]

                    Ch.Manzoor Hussain.
                    Independent
                    293

                [TR="class: AspNet-GridView-Alternate AspNet-GridView-Selected"]
                    Dr. Fardos Ashiq Awan.
                    Pakistan Peoples Party Parliamentarians
                    78925

[/TR]

Now, Dr. Firdos Ashiq Awan was able to win only becuase the vote of PML was divided among N and Q, had that not be the case, PPP had lost that election and seat...this is just one example, in 2012/13 elections, there will be action replay of the same with PTI and PML-Q dividing the anti-PPP vote with even bigger margin.. hence making the things easier for PPP's candidate and having them some majority or forcing other parties to have them as a coalition partner under certain terms.. keeping Zardari's intelligence and politics in mind, surely even if it is not PPP led govt, it will be PPP's influenced govt for sure...

Yeah many would say that the above may not be true and something of that sort but the ground reality is, very little or no change has been there in the mind of the voter... or in the electoral politics... there was a reason when Salman Taseer the late governor of Punjab use to say that PPP will be in govt till 2018...

Re: Zardari’s Woes: Pakistan’s Dismal Economy, an Angry Army

well take out the fake votes, BB's sympathy, and factor the gas and electricity load shedding in Punjab. For PPP these elections should be similar to the elections PMLQ had during 2008. I dont think they will get many votes (many people are now considering them the enemies of Punjab), they should be the third or fourth biggest party in Punjab this time. In Punjab it will be a fight between PMLN and PTI!