We Pakistanies when hate someone, often find them pure evil with no goods coming out of that particular personality/group. Zardari was victim of the same. We hated Zardari for whatever reasons, and due to hate we missed what this guy delivered in Last 5 years.
Let us start from February 2008 - When PPP won the elections and was about to form its govt. The challenges at hand were
Sindh was ready to break federation.
Balochistan was considered a lost case.
Swat and most parts of KPK were lost, ANP was considered anti-state.
Flour crisis, created by Mushy govt and its cronies
Sugar crisis, created by Mushy govt and its cronies
TTP and terrorist threats was all time high, attacks of FIA building Lahore, ISB Hotel, GHQ, KAMRA, etc
All in all, situation was dark and unclear…
five year down the road…
Sindh, Balochistan, Swat, Majority of FATA areas back in country
relatively more peace
no Sugar, Flour crisis anymore
TTP restricted to S/N wazirstan where army is kicking their asses and they are killing each other as well
we should give the credit where due, despite my hatred towards Zardari and PPP, he is the man who gave us Pakistan of 2013, which everyone thought will break apart in 2011 or 2012. For the first time, Zardari govt was able to transfer power with peace and this is the prime reason Pakistan’s performance is relatively better than before.
I would say, well Played Mr. President, many would not acknowledge what you did, but the history would remember you man with nerves of steel.
Don't forget.... no massive, government breaking corruption scandal. Oh corruption was still there, but no evidence showed up during or after his rule (so far) that Mr 10% was skimming 10% off anything.
Zardari headed the most effective democratic government Pakistan has ever seen - evidence being that it survived all challenges until its end through successful elections.
A nice thread hanibal. For the last many years I have only read on this forum, profanity, abusive language, insults, and personal attacks only against this guy. The writers included the moderators too. This guy never responded to those who always thought ill and did their best efforts to harm this guy. jisay Allah rakhay usay kon chakhay.
One thing you forgot to mention how he brought MQM to sanity (to somewhat) and tried hard to keep Karachi peaceful as much as possible.
What I'm most surprised about is that I always anticipated that there'll be a big uproar, findings and investigation of Zardari and his team's corruption once he steps down. But if you notice there isnt much noise at all. He passed his time, wutever he did good or bad, there is noone talking about that anymore. Unless there was already a deal about that
What I'm most surprised about is that I always anticipated that there'll be a big uproar, findings and investigation of Zardari and his team's corruption once he steps down. But if you notice there isnt much noise at all. He passed his time, wutever he did good or bad, there is noone talking about that anymore. Unless there was already a deal about that
PML(N) and PPP have realized that it is much better to take turns than let military have an excuse to intervene.
Zardari has proven himself to be more tolerant than other politicians of the country. He faced an overstepping Supreme Court, Army, and hostile media but still did not lose his cool. I stutter to think what the reaction of Nawaz Sharif would have been in similar circumstances.
In Pakistan, we have a new trend in Pakistan politics, both for parties, and party followers. If a politician has spent all his political career committing crimes against the public in a variety of ways, but has now done 1 good deed, then forgive and forget. Both Sharifs and Bhuttos/Zardaris have contributed to this mutually beneficial line of thought.
Are we supposed to forget the crimes committed by these crooks in the past, just because they 'have matured now, and are changed'? Is it because their bellies are so full that they can afford to take time out? Or is it because they are at the far end of their political careers, and now just want to sit on a massalla with a tasbeeh, so that transitioning power to their children can be easy?
It is laughable to say that Pakistan's survival was at stake, or that the worst of the worst corrupt party of Pakistan managed to save it.
I can't spend time refuting these absurd notions. But I am really interested to know if it is merely your own conclusion or are you espousing analysis by someone else. If later then there should be some links etc.
Your bias against Musharraf is evident from your very first post. It is obvious that the purpose of starting this topic is not to eulogize PPP or Zardari, but to abuse Musharraf.
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Please tell us that when Mushy left, Pakistan have no problems at all, GDP was at 6 or 7, no one was crying for flour or sugar, there was no load shedding of 12-14 hours a day, No existence of Mulla Radio and Swat was favorite holiday destination, Balochistan was the safest place in Pakistan, where barbers, teachers and doctors were killed for fun, TTP was at its best, feeling free to attack anyone anywhere...tell me none of this was there....
I can't change how individuals think. I can't change how you think. There is hardly any incentive for me to refute the stuff you just made up yourself. Not only did you made it all up but also gave the guilty verdict yourself to Musharraf (not the whole army), and then appreciate PPP government from saving Pakistan from your imaginations.
My purpose was just to point out the real purpose of a Nawaz supporter like you appreciating the worst PPP government ever.
I can't change how individuals think. I can't change how you think. There is hardly any incentive for me to refute the stuff you just made up yourself. Not only did you made it all up but also gave the guilty verdict yourself to Musharraf (not the whole army), and then appreciate PPP government from saving Pakistan from your imaginations.
My purpose was just to point out the real purpose of a Nawaz supporter like you appreciating the worst PPP government ever.
as i thought, when it comes to plain black and white all you can do is personal attacks.. please carry on and yes i know your hatred against Punjabies is also playing part... so keep it up..
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Please tell us that when Mushy left, Pakistan have no problems at all, GDP was at 6 or 7, no one was crying for flour or sugar, there was no load shedding of 12-14 hours a day, No existence of Mulla Radio and Swat was favorite holiday destination, Balochistan was the safest place in Pakistan, where barbers, teachers and doctors were killed for fun, TTP was at its best, feeling free to attack anyone anywhere...tell me none of this was there....
You do realize many of these ills are a gift of our civilian rulers? TTP came into existence courtesy of Benazir Bhutto. ZAB removed the elected Baluch govt, and launched a long term military operation, forever alienating the population. Corruption was at its peak lear during the 90s, whether during PPP or PMLN tenure. And now after decades of misgovernance, and having stuffed their bellies with people's blood and money, if they take a year or 2 off, all of a sudden they become the next best thing since sliced bread?
Zardari perhaps did not take 10% during the last PPP rule. Does that clear him of his past crimes?
These days, all PMLN can be heard saying is that in the past year, there hasnt been a single case of corruption brought forward. Is this supposed to clear them of all their past crimes?
This NRO style politics is what will once again throw Pakistan into the same abyss as it was before. You cover my crimes. I will cover yours.