Thw link is below to read.
How true is it a reflection of our society?
What does she exactly want to say?
Is she seeking attention or is she brave?
What I Learned Having Sex as a Young Woman in Pakistan | VICE | United States
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So is she saying that having premarital sex is ok & if guys can do this so can girls in "Islamic Republic Of Pakistan"?
All she is trying to say is its ok to have sex before marriage hence encouraging girls to do that, thats what it seem like from her article. Desperate much.
It's quite true. Esp in the upper class. Sex/dating is common in Pak now. There is a lot of hush-hush abt it, but it happens commonly.
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Apparently she is suggesting that in 70s and 80s people used to live together without marriage and Zia Ul Haq made it difficult by his laws.
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Basically, being a slut in Pakistani culture is still very hard. That's all I got from the article. Having 12 partners before the age of 19 would make one a slut in nearly every popular culture. While I agree that our people are terribly repressed when it comes to sex, what she is describing isn't a problem with most Pakistanis. Most Pakistani women don't want twelve sexual partners before marriage. This is retarded even by my standards and I am as liberal as they come. FYI, I am not at all against premarital sex but sleeping around like she does isn't a solution to our cultural sexual repression.
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She sounds desperate to prove how cool she is by sleeping around.
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I'm guessing the girl needs a bit of free publicity online for an upcoming business or brand or clothing line of hers. she might even get invited to one of those cheap morning shows now and develop contacts in show business. I guess writing a provocative article was a bit easier than "leaked" videos which might be next. I hate these people.
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She didn't have to sleep with 12 guys to prove a point. Sleeping with that many guys would lable her a slut in any country.
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the author is no good for anything except being a porn star or a hooker!
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What loads of BS from an elitist snob. What was the point of this article and why bring the whole country/religion into it.
Is she angry because 12 Islamabadi boys refused to go down on her? hahahaha that could be her own fault.
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She belongs to Pakistan's top 5% thus her experience is not representative of a how a regular Pakistani lives.
** before coming to Canada for college in 2012
**Hmm. I wonder who paid for that?
**having sex in a car with tinted windows
**Someone had a car and that too with tinted windows.
**partner's father's office, which happened to have a bedroom
**Daddy works hard then plays hard that's why.
**$150-$200 a night
**To put things in perspective that's more money than an average Pakistani makes in 2 months. That's some serious money. Where'd she get it? So yeah, this chick had money or had access to guys who had money.
**Most Pakistanis will indulge in premarital sex
**Sure. Most Pakistanis in your privileged neighborhood/school where people can afford the logistics of it. Of course, she doesn't realize that because she never left her cushy neighborhood.
**without viable access to safe methods of contraception
**What is this chick talking about? I've seen condoms for sale at pan/cigarette shops. I don't see how they could be made more accessible. I'll agree with her on the lack of sex-ed part.
Aside from all that, it's her life she can do whatever pleases her.
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I don't think this article talk about relationships...
How true is it a reflection of our society?
Honor killing in rural and also urban areas.
What does she exactly want to say?
Pakistani are porn addict and horny nation. Men are higher in status.
Is she seeking attention or is she brave?
Yes.
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I'm going to applaud her. Sex is a natural human function and I don't know what it is in our society that shames us, particularly women for engaging in it before marriage. She's also saying she's not religious, so she's talking from a purely cultural stand-point being Pakistani.
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I'm going to applaud her. Sex is a natural human function and I don't know what it is in our society that shames us, particularly women for engaging in it before marriage. She's also saying she's not religious, so she's talking from a purely cultural stand-point being Pakistani.
It is not normal to have that many sex partners at such a young age. Shouldn't catching STDs and other illnesses be a concern? For me, it's hardly an issue of morality. It is just kind of ewww.
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It is not normal to have that many sex partners at such a young age. Shouldn't catching STDs and other illnesses be a concern? For me, it's hardly an issue of morality. It is just kind of ewww.
That's subjective. What's normal to you, may not be normal to someone else. Also, I'm assuming mature, consenting adults use protection.
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I'm going to applaud her. Sex is a natural human function and I don't know what it is in our society that shames us, particularly women for engaging in it before marriage. She's also saying she's not religious, so she's talking from a purely cultural stand-point being Pakistani.
I didn't see anything applaud worthy in her piece.
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That's subjective. What's normal to you, may not be normal to someone else. Also, I'm assuming mature, consenting adults use protection.
Condoms don't protect against every possible STI. Of course everyone's normal is different and for some people casual sex is worth the risk.
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Few things that caught my attention and made me wish I had more information:
1) Author mentions in the beginning that she lived with her single father but later on, says "parents" when talking about the incident of getting caught with a guy. Soooo.....did she live with a single father? Where was her mother?
2) The article is about her sexual experiences during her teen years (before 19) in Pakistan. I went to her website and found another article written by her where her bio says "Zahra was born in Islamabad, Pakistan and **spent most of her young adolescence in Dubai, **allowing her to experience the world from three very different spectrums – North America, the Middle East and South Asia."
So.....exactly how many years did she live in Pakistan during her teens years???
Having sexual experiences with 12 different guy before the age of 19 is unacceptable even by western standards. I believe that the author did have sexual experiences in Pakistan, but to what extent is questionable.
I don't know what her point is with this article but I think she had a great opportunity to the highlight the dangers of lack of sex education and choose not to take advantage of it. Teens/young adults engage in sexual activity and will continue to do so despite what adults may think/believe. Even oral sex can lead to transmission of STDs. I also think she should have acknowledged that fact that her experience growing up in Pakistan is not the "norm" because she clearly comes from a very wealthy family.
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That's subjective. What's normal to you, may not be normal to someone else. Also, I'm assuming mature, consenting adults use protection.
Good grief. Putting religion aside, even among the more liberal goray folk....12 partners doesn't conjure up a flattering image of a girl. Many among the liberal lot would also feel hesitation/sharam in confessing to having slept with "12" partners to someone they're dating. Applause would be a disturbing reaction....but an attitude of dismissal or condoning is no better. Using protection isn't a 100% guarantee. And there are also emotional/psychological consequences to consider. Men and women respond to sexual intimacy differently. While exceptions among the genders exist, it tends to be easier for men to cut ties, walk-away and never look back....while for many women such intimacy is a bigger deal. Yes, both genders have sexual needs, but they're wired differently and so it affects them differently. When this type of recklessness becomes frequent, people start having a dismissive attitude about it......and that results in lack of ehtaraam/respect for relationships/marriages.....the sanctity is gone.