Re: yvonne Ridley praises suicide bombings and al-Qaeda
Hyperactive is Lajjo. Great to know who I'm dealing with, then.
I don't get this! WHY is there such a "pity me pity me, I am the victim" mentality???
Face it, we muslims are NOT doing enough. 1/5 of this world is muslim - do you know that? Don't tell me its so easy to victimize muslims. Its not. If every muslim peed at once, we'd drown the world.
Muslims are up against people who are educated, well-mannered, well-spoken, people who can justify their arguments and get away with human rights atrocities because of that.
How hard is it for muslims to do the same?
Oh HOLD ON! I totally forgot! Haha! We keep our populations undereducated. We deny them basic human rights: food, clothing, shelter. Its IRONIC to me when I go with my family to visit the dargha in karachi that right outside the dargha there are little naked, yes, naked babies walking in muddy dirt that's infested with YOUR fecal matter. Yes, the poop you throw into the sewage when you visit Pakistan and which the city government hasn't been able to keep away from the roads and the drinking water. These naked babies look up at the dargha and affluent to middle class people visiting the dargha are content to say their prayers, get back in their cars, and go straight bag home, not giving the naked babe a second glance.
THIS is your muslim population. Start taking responsibility.
Do you know, that in our area where we live there are a reported 50,000 Pakistanis (reported in the newspaper, although I think the number is higher if you count illegals and unreported). This doesn't include muslims of all ethnicities. 50,000 Pakistanis and do you know when we did our scholarship dinner for students with high academic achievements - do you know how many people there were? 10 families. 50,000 people, and 10 families were able to produce offspring that actually did good things in high school. There are less than 5 muslim charity/outreach organizations and this is a BIG CITY where I live. You want to talk about how its more important to pay attention to the deen than the material world? FINE. Do you know how many people come to my mosque to pray when its NOT a Friday? Just take a wild guess. Do you know how many people I know of in this area who are studying Islam professionally at the graduate level? 1. And she had to go to another city to study it; there are no reputed programs in the area, as there is very sparse faculty that is muslim and can explain Islam to students. Not one student in the area currently is studying Islam as a major for undergraduate education. We have to call in random people who have never been Imams to be Imams in our mosque - there's just not many qualified people out there to do the job. Our current Imam is a engineer by profession, and hasn't taken more than basic Islam courses in grade school from a country abroad.
So, cry all you want about how victimized muslims are. Muslims have been digging holes for centuries now and burying themselves in it.
Salam,
Honestly woman, read your history, some claims you make are coming out from god knows where.
G'day!
We are fools...We can only see what is placed before our eyes and we forget what happened in the past and what is happening behind what has been placed before our eyes...And when someone shows us what is happening behind what has been placed before us, we call them fools...Because what we see and hear is the truth...Whatever happened, happened...
When Hitler was waging war on innocent men, women and children and destroying others, the Germans all supported him...Because all they saw was propaganda placed before their eyes...And they shouted with Nazis, marched with Nazis and killed with Nazis...Because they couldn't see what was happening behind what was placed before their eyes...Then someone must have come and said to the Nazis, 'Look, you are doing wrong...Wel will oppose you', but the propaganda was strong, and all the Germans said, 'no, we are right...We are bringing peace to the world, and education and enlightenment with our bombs and our genocide...This is the only way to achieve peace...Don't you follow the news? Don't you read the papers? Our war is against the oppression in the world...Our war is against the other systems in the world which oppress people...So we fight other people...'
And so, the Germans marched on and killed many millions of people believing that what they were doing was right...They puffed their chests and supported the Nazis and waved banners and flags and flowers for the soldiers who marched on and killed more millions...
The Germans then started to hate and oppose those who stood in the way of their 'good fight'...They hanged those who opposed their views, tortured those who saw the reality behind the viciousness and looked down and spit upon those who differed with their views...
But technology was limited in those days...In those days the propaganda could only be fed to those that the Nazis could reach, namely the German people...If they could reach the world, they too would find people who would believe in their cause...
But today, the media is everywhere...In newspapers, on TV, on radio e.t.c., and people once again fall victim to propaganda...As every Iraqi dies, we say, 'it's for democracy', as every child gets blown up, we say, 'it's collateral damage', as every bomb goes off, we automatically shout, 'I must be the Jihadis', as every Sunni dies, we say 'It must be the Shias' and vice versa...Propaganda has taught us what to think every situation without looking into the past...
And we come to hate people like Yvonne Ridley who sees what's behind what has been placed before us, and like the Germans before us, we hate her for opposing views that have been taught to us...
Salam,
Good post. What I dont get is, that people are willingly jumping on the bandwagon of the opressors, and their propaganda. Yet give no heed to the objectivity of a reporter, who has taken the sides to present the views and it's circumstances.
Is this what Surah Baqarah goes in detail of? The part about the munafiqoon, lost in the confusion of their allegiance.
Ready to give up their lives to justify the thirsty agendas of the world's largest terrorist criminal inhumane organizations (US, Israel, Britain). ?
What justice is this.
And when reporters who bring up valid points, are brought down, because people need to express the subjectivity.
The issue here is not that she is a convert, for she was speaking the same BEFORE accepting Islam. And neither does she have the world against her, quite the opposite infact. She had been a respected journalist in Britain, look up her on google.
yvonne promotes suicide bombing because she is going indepth to explain the condition of the oppressed world?
WHAT would hte prophet pbuh say? Was he wrong too, by taking this framework in to account?
Its not about muslims being victims, its about muslims taking the biggest HITS in the world, DUE to the propaganda, the agendas, the doctrines of those in power, mostly in the western world.
If you cannot recognize that, and want to justify them, go ahead.
You can pray for their victory, pray for the opressors.
And Allah will have the final decision for all.
Wsalam, Take care.
