Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
IF it is humanly possible to to make sure not 1 single word was altered (forgot, transcribed or recorded incorrectly, etc) in the Quran, that doesn't address the hadith which many Muslims put on par with God's words and is an integral part of their faith. It cannot be said with the same confidence 'not 1 single word was created by man' regarding hadith, no?
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
hadith has never been put on par with Quran....
and hadith literature has been researched well and thorough and classifications like authentic, good, weak, false etc have been made in ahadith...
in Quran, however, there is no such thing as an authentic verse vs weak verse, the whole of it is authentic and unchanged....
why wud it be so difficult to swallow that something can remain unchanged????
just cuz the bible has new editions every year or so doesnt mean that other religions cud not keep their books free from changes....
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
It's not the free from changes after the original was compiled that is 'difficult to swallow'.
For me, the difficult part is to understand that the Quran are the "exact" words of God. Maybe I have this wrong, but this is how I understand the Quran was compiled: Gabriel told Muhammed who told it to others who told it to others who recorded it some time after Muhammed's death. One would have to assume God was either using Gabriel's voice and image to speak (can’t do that, there’s only ONE God) or Gabriel was reading from a script or Gabriel had perfect memory and recitation skills. Then one would have to accept that an unread man was able to perfectly memorize the exact words spoken by God (I mean Gabriel) and recite them to others, who also had perfect memorization and recitation skills because the message wasn't in its finished form, it was retold yet again to others who transcribed them to final book format. Another obstacle to overcome in believing the words to be the literal words of God is to believe He speaks in rhyme and out of order.
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
Well besides Moses, God has never spoken directly to any prophet. And if Jessica Simpson and can memorize lines and recite them in a movie, why is it so hard to believe an Angel cannot?
There have much bigger and extraordinary miracles in the history of religion (both Islam and Christanity) than an illiterate learning how to read overnight. Again, what’s the big issue?
Actually, the revelation was immediately recorded, as soon as it was revealed. There isn’t such a long chain as you suggest. This has been the case with ALL religions based on scripture.
Poetry was a very important part of the Arabian culture at the time. It is only logical to communicate in a form most familiar to the recipients. Besides, as long as you get the point, what does it matter how is it written? It can be all in Haikus for all I care.
Out of order? I don’t understand. Verses were revealed as per the circumstances of the time. It’s not as if the epilogue is introduced in the middle of the 2nd chapter.
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
If Jesus(pbuh) was able to bring back the dead than why people have so hard time believing than Qura'an is/will remain unchanged till the end of times. Jesus(pbuh) was able to bring back the dead by the will of Allah(God) not on his own and Allah(God) promised that He will take care of the Qura'an. Why its so hard to believe that Allah will keep His promise as compare to what people believe that Jesus(pbuh) was able to bring back the dead? Some people's mind are so blackened that they contradict themselves and still don't realise it and rightly so Allah says He will block their minds. We can surely observe it here.
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
I think u should study how the Quran was compiled, there was a last recitation of the Quran by Mohammed (pbuh) in the presence of Allah so every1 could correct there written version of the Quran, as for the hadiths they were placed seperate from the Quran because of the misunderstandings that led the bible to become currupt the hadiths were the words of the prophet an his words were kept seperate so that the Quran wwas only the words of Allah. Another thing Islam was the last religion Allah sent 2 us, there would have been a new religion an book if the Quran were not the words of Allah becoz the Quran is the world of Allah in its correct form we still have islam.
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
jesus calling back the dead is just as man-made as anything.
i guess all the miracles ended in the 6th-7th century and took place before that…no more miracles in our time…oh no wait…maybe we dont see those miracles becuz god has blocked our eyes…
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
when did this happen? …the everyone sitting in one place and the prophet reciting the quran?..i have heard many historians say that the ayats were memorized by people and put into a book long after the prophet’s death…
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
Before the prophets death, yes they compiled it after da death of the prophet but it was recited one last time so all the words were correct. They had 2 start puttin the quran together at the battle becoz ppl invloved in da battle were dieing an they had memorised the verses of the quran so they needed those ppl. Verses which were written down were kept in a safe an then the quran was all put 2gether.
Re: Your religion might be a man-made, mine is not!
The ONLY reason you are Muslim because your great great great… grandfather chose to be a Muslim. Perhaps he was forced or chose it on his free will. We’ll never know…