:k: My thoughts exactly. 
:topic: read the post again.. its not a debate about castes or backgrounds or Pakistani nationalism but different groups of peopel living in Pakistan to make it so colorful..
Half Pathan and half Baloch.
I believe that we should recognise our ethnic backgrounds and roots but not be proud of them because undoubtedly pride leads to arrogance and looking down on others. Being proud of our castes and ethnicities causes disunity amongst us, first we are Muslim, then Pakistani and any other identity comes after that.
Caste is Gujjar from both mother and father. Gujjars are a large caste ranging from nomadic tribes in Kashmir to Land owning chaudhries in Punjab. I am originally from Dist Gujrat in Punjab from a proud family- our family tree goes back to 1000AD to Hindu ancestors- although I am not sure how accurate it is!! Most famous Gujjars are - Chaudhary Rehmat Ali, the forgotten visionary who named Pakistan & Chaudhary Fazal Elahi the President of Pakistan preceding Gen Zia. These days Gujjars are also linked with violence mainly due to Punjabi films like- Vehshi Gujjar, Kala Gujjar, Gujjar da vair etc etc. !!
I don't think there is anything wrong with being proud of one's ethnic origin. I disagree that being proud of your origin makes a person arrogant. It's definitely interesting to know of what you're made of in terms of background.
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Caste is Gujjar from both mother and father. Gujjars are a large caste ranging from nomadic tribes in Kashmir to Land owning chaudhries in Punjab. I am originally from Dist Gujrat in Punjab from a proud family- our family tree goes back to 1000AD to Hindu ancestors- although I am not sure how accurate it is!! Most famous Gujjars are - Chaudhary Rehmat Ali, the forgotten visionary who named Pakistan & Chaudhary Fazal Elahi the President of Pakistan preceding Gen Zia. These days Gujjars are also linked with violence mainly due to Punjabi films like- Vehshi Gujjar, Kala Gujjar, Gujjar da vair etc etc. !!
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Are Gujjars types of Jatts?
Hmm… I am a pure Punjaban from both sides of my family. 
Our caste is Arian… we lived in Jalandur, India before partition, and before that I was told our ancestors originated from Syria. 
Punjaban and Syrian...? hmmm confusing.
im a punjabi.:D
jatt :~)
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Are Gujjars types of Jatts?
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Nope - different castes. Gujjars are mainly in northern Punjab and Kashmir (I think) whereas Jatts are all over Punjab. Most of the Sikhs are Jatts too.
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Punjabi on both mother and father's side. Father is Jatt Sandhu, mother is Jatt Phularwan. Landowners in Lahore, and our village Sherpur. We own a tractor ;)
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No wonder Outlaw mistook you for me sometime back.:-)
Hey where is Sherpur? which side of Lahore? Does your family still live there?
Is that PhullarwaN or Bhullar?
Chann ji, tuhada vee koi haal naee. Kittay koi Lahori daikhaya naee tay forun tharak chaarni shooroo kar dittee. Tussi aiday naloN Lahore ee kiyoN naee move ho jaanday?
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Chann ji, tuhada vee koi haal naee. Kittay koi Lahori daikhaya naee tay forun tharak chaarni shooroo kar dittee. Tussi aiday naloN Lahore ee kiyoN naee move ho jaanday?
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theek andaaza ay tera..Lahoriay te Lahorna meri kamzori ne.
par toon saRh na... tere jinna chikna koi nai hor labheya mainu ajjay takk.
Aho Chann ji, tay tuhaday hathoN tilkun da vee apna ee maza ay.
tay tuhaday hathoN tilkun da vee apna ee maza ay<<
Romanov baoo, if I read that right, that’s highly nazuk of you 
hahaha
Sehar, je eh thoRha jiha vi hor nazuk hunda te kuRi hunda...bach giya.
Sehar, if you had read it right then that'd be the last thing you'd have been saying. :p
Chann ji, make up your mind. taanooN munday pasand nay ya kuriyaaN? ak jagaH tak naee sakday tussi.
we have chickens 
As far as I know its in the district Kasur, Tehsil Pattoki..South of Lahore.
Your right it may be bhullar..Only heard it in conversation, I dont know about these things I have a large number of relatives who live there still, other half of the family migrated to Cantt.