Younis renamed captain/Younis reinstated as Captain

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well he did the right thing .these morons like javed miandad and sikandar bakht are tring to treat him like a school boy who made a mistake.they bloody damn well know that you have to show balls in pakistan cricket team to get respect out of players otherwise they'll stamp on you ..thats how imran khan became a great captain by showing balls not by being a wuss.

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Pakistani cricket team, you won't get better comedy anywhere. Good God! Anyway, this is good for the team. Good luck boys.

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This Naseem Ashraf guy is good. I am not just saying because the fact he re-instated Younis but due to the fact I have seen him worked with education department to promote education throughout Pakistan along with building a lot of schools throughout Pakistan making education first priority. Even though the guy does not have any solid background history on cricket but his decisions are normally pretty much good enough. As a matter of fact I think he did the right thing by re-instating Younis plus making sure all the players who had rift is sorted out. I saw the press conference on ARY and Yusuf, Younis along with new chair seemed pretty satisfied with the decision and it seems like things are cooling down in the dressing room.

The other good thing he did is sacking ass :wink: coach Mushtaq. I’d say the dawn is breaking after a long night in the Pakistani camp.

Get ready Champions Trophy here we come :jhanda:

Mind you these are my own opinions and feelings based on the drama’s that have folded recently within Pak camp including Oval test forfeit. One is always optimistic and always wnat to see his/her country on the top and in the right direction but I am saying all this based on the facts and happening and what had happened in Pakistani Camp.

Pakistan Paindabad :jhanda:

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Dr. Naseem Ashraf

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Just cannot believe this. Does Younis have any self-respect? I mean what in the world is he thinking. I have great respect for Yousuf; no matter how much people trash him being captain or vice-captain, at least he took care of the situation in an adult matter. Younis has dented not only his image but also the mentality of Pakistan.

I really hope it works out in Champions Trophy.

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If he brings home Champion Trophy everything will be history in no time. Thats the mentality of Pakistan.

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^ Pakistan can win if Inzamam is leading the side. The point is mentality; we were tired after Oval and did not need this. Changing position not only creates divisions in the dressing room e.g. First Younis says he is not going to be a dummy captain; Yousuf comes in, what does that mean? He is calling his teammate a dummy captain. Now he is back. With no clarification rather rumors, this is not good.

I really hope it works out for our team because, our players cannot handle too much of controversies.

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Funny how all of this can be traced back to Hair. Son of a gora.

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Congratulations to PCB :clap:

If there weren’t any rifts between Yousuf and Younis, they have successfully created a platform where anything ugly can happen between them, specially when we have other khalifas (as we say in karachi:D ) around them.

Right now Pakistan team is in a most vulnerable situation one could have imagined. It all happened when somewhere someone’s ego was hurt. Could have started from Inzi, then younis, then Shehryar. Now the last thing we need is Yousuf, Razzak to feel the same:(

Alot depends on Younis and Yousuf now. Both need to act maturely on and off the field, otherwise history will repeat itself, when we use to have 11 khalifas in a 11 member team.

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But if the new Chair is smart enough he could have this solved in no time. For example he could give strict warnings within whole PCB camp no more drama’s and no more personal ego. What ever PCB decides is final and if some one doesn’t agree/follow than consider yourself sacked.

By the way the new chair has announced he will put up the new PCB constituion or something like that withink 45 days.

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It has emerged that (Younis Khan’s pathan metre afterall did turn and) he withdrew from the captaincy over a trivial matter:

From Dawn http://www.dawn.com/2006/10/07/spt5.htm

Younis had requested the board chairman to reconsider the termination of a low paid employee of the board who was facing financial problems but it was not properly heeded by Shaharyar.

“Younis had gone to see Shaharyar Khan for this very reason on Thursday morning. To his misfortune, the peon sitting outside the chairman’s office didn’t recognize him and asked him to wait although the PCB chief was alone in his office,” the source said.

“Younis got extremely upset with the peon’s attitude and after waiting for a while, left the office in a fit of anger. When Shaharyar finally came to know about Younis’s visit, he immediately asked the peon to send him in but the player had left by then,” the source added.

“Younis, who took the small incident as an insult, broke down and announced at the press conference he was withdrawing from the captaincy,” the source stated.

“It was only after Shaharyar’s wife spoke to Younis that he started talking sense but by that time it was too late.”

Make of the above what you will but if what is mentioned in the article is true, then sadly I am very very disappointed.

Captaincy is not just about innovative thinking and aggressive field setting. It is a LOT about man management. I think Inzamam was a far superior captain then. He may not match Younis in aggression and innovation but, from this, it appears that OVERALL he was the best captain we have had since Imran Khan. A man devoid of politics and keeping a team incident-free for nearly 3 years. Oval fiasco might be one failing but it was too big an incident, a once in a life time, or for that matter, once in cricketing history.

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teaser; I think it is beneficial for the team when PCB stays out of it. If you want to end, any tension and rifts between team members use Woolmer instead of PCB. This person can get the job done, moreover put Younis and Yousuf in a room where they can settle their differences and tell the team upfront that there no animosity between them and we should move on and just play good cricket.

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You should be a journalist to spread such rumours. I have obsolutely no doubt that PAK may not be in a state of mind to make any significant outcome in Champ trophy, especially due to Inzi absence, but what new Chair did is FANTASTIC.

I am saying this not because I like one player and don't like other, rather I am saying because in long term it is better for PAK cricket. Every one knew after Inzi retirement, the best available option for Captain among the available lot is Younis. If you make him play under others due to internal rift (or what ever reason it may have for his refusal to lead the team) then once Inzi is gone permanently such elements of rift will be encouraged to cause troubles again.

I am sure despite being a fan of Inzi, and probably like me you are also fan of Razzaq as a player but we all know Razzaq is not a leader type material, and Yousaf been tested in Past as Captain, and no one thinks he is a long term solution of leadership in team.

I hope PCB chair should have consulted Yousaf before changing him as leader, only to thank him for steping in to accept leadership to resolve the crisis. I strongly beleive if IF IT IS NOT AN ENOUGH MOTIVATION FOR A PLAYER TO REPRESENT PAKISTAN IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO IS LEADING THEM THAN SUCH PLAYERS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLAY FOR PAKISTAN AT ANY LEVEL.** Additionally, they should not be allowed to sign any contract with any club (in the Netherland or SA) or County as a Pakistani citizen, which could be done by foreign office by keeping them on exit control list, unless they sort immigration to some other country. Or ban them from any sort of cricket as a penalty of revolt or lack of descipline that may earn a bad name to country as a result of below par results in a game.**

Now after Cham Trophy, PAK should bring Inzi back as ODI captain since he may like to play till World Cup, and keep Younis as Captain for Test matches and request Inzi to play under Younis. So Pak should have for:

ODI: Inzi captain and Younis VC
Test: Younis Captain and Yousaf VC.

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I am just stating the obvious. I am not the one saying “do not want to be a dummy captain” than leave all the information up in the air. The fact of the matter is Inzamam has won us series, and Younis is yet to be test as a captain. Do not go into perceptions because they are very different from realities. Let Younis find out captaincy than we can have a discussion. His dramabazi did not help the team; there were no potential possible internal rifts when Inzamam was leading the side.

Best possible choice, I think people at Gupshup should drink a cool aide when talking about Younis being the best captain. Imran, Javed and Wasim were the best and they made plenty of mistakes during their captaincies. Some of them very controversial, lets not put Younis on a pedestal that he himself has no idea of it. Let him get a feel of it than we can talk.

In a team, it is all about harmony and Inzamam made sure there was unification in the team. It has been a while we have seen a team playing for victory and all that credit goes to him and Woolmer.

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^ this will not happen ... i can almost promise u that inzi will remain the captain in either format of the game as long as he plays and i think thats fair enough....he should be sensible enough to retire after WC and end his career in a dignified way inshallah !

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Totally agree leadership is totally a different ball game, but all we are talking about BEST AVAILABLE OPTION IN THE PRESENT LOT. Inzi command respect because every player in the team knew that PAK cricket is about INZi right now, once his performance decline he may not have same command in front of unruley players like Afridi and Akhtar who may question you by saying I am doing better than you. So in the present lot Younis is the best option and PCB must teach our players that if they are playing they should think of Pakistan not who is leading them. If Pak don’t crush such revolt, they will never be desciplined.

Pakistan showed doors to many players after past WC, and no one could imagine at that time that PAK will be a strong contender for next WC after releasing so many big names, but PAK got talent and they were able to rebuilt a team, though it took two years. With next revolt if they show doors to some players and stick to desciplines at all cost, I am sure they can stop such things in team for ever.

Look at SA, Smith is a captain and many senior and good players are playing under him. Look at Australians Hussey yesterday joined the team and now he is leading the team in the absence of Ponting, many senoirs play under him. Look at ENG Straus is leading and many seniors players play under him. So whats wrong in Pakistan if you have a good leader, let him lead and give your 100% for your country and nation.

Look at this new article, people are creating troubles by asking questions like what will happen if Inzi come back for final? how can he come back when he is being replaced by Faisal and not even a part of 14 players, though it will be blessing for Pakistan to have him back for final, but if I am Inzi or PCB, I will play under present leader, who made it to the final if Younis could do it.

‘I will be happy to see Inzi lift the trophy…’ - Younis
Nagraj Gollapudi in New Delhi
October 7, 2006

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Sombre phalanx: Younis Khan, flanked by Bob Woolmer and PCB chairman Naseem Ashraf, insisted that everything was perfectly in order © Getty Images

Younis Khan, who was reinstated on Saturday morning as Pakistan captain, hours before the team took off for India to play the Champions Trophy, scoffed at speculation that his team would be under pressure as a result of the latest crisis in Pakistan cricket. Hours after landing in New Delhi, Younis put up an anxious but smiling face in front of the media, repeatedly pointing to his positive “body language” as proof that everything was fine where the team was concerned.
“The team has been one and our performance in the last two years is evidence of that. And if there was a problem I wouldn’t have come here to play the tournament and the sole reason for that is our team’s unity,” he said.
In a series of spectacular incidents Younis had been appointed captain two days back but refused it saying he didn’t want to be a “dummy captain.” Mohammad Yousuf was appointed as replacement, only for Younis to recalled by the newly appointed PCB chairman Naseem Ashraf.
One subtle hint that the Pakistan camp may not have got over the turmoil yet came when the team manager Talat Ali, introduced Younis as “Mohammad Yousuf” right at the start of the media session. Both Younis and coach Bob Woolmer flushed but tried to laugh out the matter. Woolmer,aware of the predatory nature of the media, wanted to pre-empt discussion on the topic.
“It has been an eventful month-and-a-half, one that will be recorded well in my brain for a long time, but I’ll say that it is now history. Unfortunately for all of you who would like to know all that happened in the last few days and in the last one month, we are going to put all that baggage behind us, put it in a dustbin, put it away and get on with the cricket,” he said.
In fact, Woolmer thought that the team could use the pressure as a catalyst to regain the team’s focus. “When you have these sort of pressures you can either crumble and disappear and not want to play or you can use them to strenghten team spirit and to play the sort of cricket that will put us back on the map and take all these issues.”
Pakistan begin their campaign against an undecided qualifer on October 17, then go on to play New Zealand and South Africa and Woolmer is not underestimating either of the latter two teams. One piece of good news for the team is the return of Mohammad Asif who was under an injury scare during the Mohammad Nizar Trophy match between Sialkot and Uttar Pradesh last month. Younis was confident that his team would reach the final as “we have a balanced team and our biggest advantage is the presence of some good allrounders even if the absence of our captain Inzamam-ul-Haq is a big loss to the side.”
Asked if he would step down if Pakistan reached the final, by when Inzamam would’ve served his four-match ban, Younis said there was no doubt about that. “It will be really good if we win our first four games in the Champions Trophy and then Inzy comes back and I will be ready to stand down as captain. I will be really happy to see him lift the trophy while I am standing behind him. He has been one of my heroes right from the 1992 World Cup.”
Repeatedly, Younis stressed that it was not the captaincy stakes but respect that mattered to him. “It has never made a difference for me if I am made the captain or not. I know that the captain’s chair is always a big issue in the subcontinent but I wouldn’t like to be involved in the captaincy race. The only thing I look for is respect in the team and if my word is being heard. Inshallah I should be playing for at least three years and I am trying to play that in a clean and neat fashion.”
Nagraj Gollapudi is Assistant Editor of Cricinfo Magazine

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Pakistan was stupid to let go of the seniors, and those are not seniors mind you they are Cricket Legends that are born once in a century, yes, we are bless with talent but what did we do with it. How we groomed players like Sami, Farhat, Butt, Malik, Afridi and Akmal. All of them are relying on their or that performance and all those years it is Inzamam first than Yousuf, Akhtar, Younis and Asif who won us series Most of them seniors, you can not just show door to a legend like Inzamam, how many times did he act like selfish human being. Compare him to other great batsmen of this generation or last decade, does he look like selfish person. Pakistani fans, cricketers and critics have booed him ferociously and the person stays and gets the job done. We find one mistake and murder him with it. Tell me is it fair to show a door to person who at age 36 tries to come in day in and out and help us won series. He changes momentum and opponents psyche when he present.

Let Younis feel out captaincy, Imran, Javed and Wasim were not natural leaders, they had potential and it were seniors who help them become leaders and great captains. Younis can learn a lot from Inzamam.

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Yes agree - comedy made by good comedians. Where else in the world of cricket you would find this type of comedy?

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Man with Plan: When I was talking about showing doors, I only mean those who creates rift in the team. Personally, I always believe legends play for nation and country. They don't create rift to disgrace their nation. In present circumstances I have no doubt if there was any displeasure in playing under Younis leadership, it would have been from players like Afridi and Razzaq, and I do consider them potential match winners but not legends.

I still beleive batting alongside players like Inzi, Yousaf, Younis, Tendulkar, Dravid, Lara provide better coaching than attending academies. So there is no doubt about retaining such players for the development of the youngster, but trouble makers must be dealt with iron hands, no matter how good they are. Since descipline and nation pride shouldn't be compromise at any cost.

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All right, I do not think we have necessarily troublemakers in our team. It is young, energetic and passionate. If there are difficulties, they sort it out the next day. This dud is a little bit dangerous and I hope Younis and Yousuf settle it wisely and move on. I do not think Inzamam will take anything to heart, we know him for a long time and he has been trough a lot. Hope everything works out and team goes to play as normal like a team.