Young Saudis often harass Indians and Pakistanis

I am surprised why Arabs treat Indians and Pakistanis so badly. Is it because
they consider them to be inferior?

Young Saudis often harass South Asian foreign workers’

From our correspondent

12 April 2006

JEDDAH — Saudi students have admitted to harassing foreigners, according to a Abdullah Al Mutairi, a teacher. Writing in the Arabic daily Al Watan recently, he said that he had a discussion on why young Saudis hated foreign workers, particularly Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

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“The students admitted that they had harassed foreigners, particularly South Asians, in the street,” he said.

One of the students said that a worker on the street used to be a perfect opportunity for them to beat him up and then run away.

Some admitted searching for foreign workers to beat them up, throw eggs at and generally abuse.

When asked, as to why they behaved with them in this manner, some said it was just a fun, nothing more or less. Others said that they thought that the workers were weak and unable to fight back. But there were some other students said that their favourite pastime was to catch cats, kill them and skin them. “I was shocked and disturbed by all this violence and wondered what was triggering such actions on the part of the students,” Al Mutairi said.

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Though the classroom discussion ended, the questions would not remain. “Is this violence only committed by children or can we see it at other levels in other forms? How do older people deal with foreign workers? Do the workers feel that we respect them? Sadly, the rude and sarcastic way we often refer to them sprang to my mind. Can such relationships be called humane? Are they based on equality? Are they in keeping with the tenets of Islam?” he asked himself. Moreover, do Saudis who sponsor and employ foreigners fulfil the conditions of their contracts, “which both we and they have signed?

“How many housemaids never get a day off? "I remember a worker in the school where I work, was on the job punctually. He had not been paid for six months. In the similiar case, I remember another unpaid worker who had asked humbly for payment of his dues, received nothing but curses and insults. It also seems to me that our children’s violent behaviour has its origins and roots in the behaviour and attitudes of adults,” he added.

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Already posted.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=212864

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Re: Young Saudis often harass Indians and Pakistanis

pakistanis hate arabs [more] and arabs hate pakistanis. hisaab barabar. qissa khatam, paisa hazam. indians, on the other hand, any1 can beat them. no problemo there :p

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I have been harrassed by saudi ba$tards :mad:

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Yeah-even I we went to Dubai and Abu Dhabi, the Arab storekeepers and Arabs on the street treated us like crap.

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i lived in ME for more than 15years. can't recall a single incidence where i was treated badly by the arabs. however i've been living in canada for less than 10years and i've had quite a few incidents involving racism, discrimination and harrasment [mostly at uni, twice at work, once on the BUS and twice on subway [not the sandwich]). Canadian bas$tards!!!!

my bro had such problems when he was in texas for his education. american ba$tards!!!

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Why? Because Pakistani and Indians are "poor" and they go there to "work and earn money". Of course it is pathetic, but what good can lack of education do?

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Arabs are a bunch of jerks. And then we kiss their arse whenever they visit Pakistan... Pathetic people we are sometimes...

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I can predict that as usual the Mullah squad will jump to Arabs’ defence, they never get tired of rimming Arabi starfish’.

You can’t deny the truth, I’m a religious minded person myself and there’s nothing I would like more than there to be unity between us but everything isn’t as rosy as we’d like it to be.

In my entire life I’ve interacted with about 6 Arabs (Kuwaiti, Palestinian, Unknown and a Jordanian) and everyone has been a dick for hating Pakistanis, fine with me at first but as soon as I tell them I’m from Pakistan it went downhill, the first three had both hatred and disdain for Pakistanis, the Jordanian had the disdain but didn’t really hate Pakistanis if they kept out of his way, he did however comment that he thought all Pakistanis were ugly till he saw me, didn’t know what to think of that. It isn’t just limited to Pakistanis, it’s Desis in general that they hate.

I’ve plenty of friends of the family who work or have worked in the Middle East and not one of them has a nice thing to say about the place, workers are over worked and treated like crap and I know of an instance where somebody was asked his nationality he replied “Pakistani” upon which he was asked to leave the shopping mall. Here in England my Mirpuri friend worked with two Arabs, one was a complete tosser and expected my mate to 'respect' him because he spoke Arabic and he looked down on Pakistanis, the other was the more religious one so he was very decent and scolded his brother for his wrong behaviour.

South Asians in the west are ungreatful sods, yes there are racists around and our goverments are killing innocent Muslims around the world but we have it so good compared to Pakis living in the Middle East, white people might have had a really bad history but they are definately more accepting and fair than our so called brothers, it's only in Britian where you can call your teacher a dickhead and then get out of trouble by threatening him with "is it coz i'm 'black'?", try anything like that in Arabobo countries and they'll kick your little brown rafeeqi butt back to Lalukhet.

I'm not saying all Arabs are like that but the only ones I've known to be decent are the ones who are into their religion, your average Arab is a dick.

It's not just Arabs, I have seen the same Desiphobia amongst Iranians and Afghans who despite liking Bollywood girls think Pakis and Indians are ugly and worthy of no respect, the Iranis were just plain racist but the Afghans just wanted "Afghan land and people" back from Pakistan and were generally okauy with me but ignorant towards my punjabi friends.

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I have lived there myself , not for an extended period, just about 2 years.
Its a very reserved society, no interaction between desi and arab community.
They do discriminate on Arab - non-Arab basis.
Its not a place to live actually, people who go there have just one purpose in mind, earn money and save something for the future, as long and as much as they can. So sometimes this gives rise to the defensive attitude on the part of the desis, they would do anything to hold on to the job, get the next contract renewed etc etc. This could be one the reasons behind the humble and low profile of desis.

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Don't kid yourself, Desis I've met would give anything to be Arab and lick Arab butt, sorry there's no other way of putting it. Not just Pakis or Muslims, two of my Gujju Hindu friends were obsessed with Arabs too, in fact one's got an Arabic song as his MSN screen name just right now.

Pakis can only look down on Blacks, Bangladeshis and back in Pakistan Afghan refugees.

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:cb:

when i opened my mouth :smiley: i was told to shutup and got bashed and PMed by few guppies lol…

*sigh

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I’ve said it here time and time again, that one of the main reasons that South Asians face racism in Middle Eastern countries is because they’re not up to snuff when it comes to blending in with the society there. I mean, I’ve seen people who’ve lived in the Emirates and Saudi for decades and still cannot speak a word of Arabic. I can tell you that I’d be pretty darn annoyed as a local if you were earning your livelihood in my country and wouldn’t bother learning the language!

Why do immigrants in the West try and blend in as swiftly as possible and adopt the language at the very least. The reason is that the gori chamri and angrezi language is still held in a much high regard than a language like Arabic. Our people do not make the effort to acquaint themselves with the locals. Most people I know stay within a very restricted social circle of Indian/Pakistani friends, and in the end if they get discriminated against, although not justified, they’re inviting it upon themselves.

My own personal experience in the Emirates has been a manifestation of what I mention above… I spent 14 years of my childhood there and can remember a few distinct incidents of racism until the age of 10 – 12. In the final few years however, when I spoke Arabic to near fluency, I had no grievance whatsoever. I remember having to confab between groups of people who did and did not know Arabic… I accompanied my uncle to the Police station once where he was treated with utmost respect when filing a complaint. I mean we all complain about racism, but we ought to adopt the cultural practices of the place we intend to call our home. Similarly, my dad spent 20 years of his life there, and just this year when he went back to visit, the locals there gave him a protocol warm welcome.

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immigrants are blending in the West? wtf do i have to hold for finding an English option on everything then?

as for the Arabobs, whatever i have to say is unfit for general viewing.. suffice to say we won't treat them bad if they visit our country.. even if they didn't speak our language... so let's just leave this language cop out alone..

Before we utter a single word in any language. is their attitude towards us neutral or they have a predisposed notion of us being rafeeq's?

IF u know Arabic and possess a Pakistani passport, will they change their laws not to discriminate against you in salary, benefits, visa rules etc?

did saudis do say somethin to pakistan recently

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Sara…

Arabs are an ancient race of people with an inherent built in sense of perception not seen in other races, particularly desis…

They can sense bad vibes and karma from far away and cherish geniality…That is why they are so generous and their hospitality famous…

However, when a desi with a lame attitude approaches them, he gets from them what he deserves…

Then these same desis meet other desis and ***** about how bad Arabs are…

But since your family and yourself are treated well by them, it follows that you and your family themselves are genial people…

A pissy attitude is hateful not just to Arabs but anyone…It’s just that they are open about letting you know they don’t like your attitude..

Respect anyone and treat them with dignity and you’ll get the same in return…Meet someone with malice in your heart, and you’ll get the same…

I can say this because I left my bag on the plane when I went for Hajj…My mother got worried and started crying because all our documents were in there…When this guy (I still remember his name: Wael) saw her crying and in broken English comforted her, “Mama, Mama, please no cry no cry…”

Then for almost half an hour he sent guys with his walkie talkie and ran around like a headless chicken and kept me with him until we got the bag back…

Then he comes back to my mother and says, “Look mama, you bag…Now no cry…It’s OK…” And he left…

And there were other instances where it was Arabs who came for our help…Not desis…

When my father got sick, it was Arabs who were helping me take him to the hospital and getting his medicine for him…

I have the best regards for them…Respect begets respect…

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:k: 100% :k:

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sara, you have to be a guy/boy to see what we as boys saw on streets, number of stones thrown at desis by young ones would exceed number of stones thrown by laloo-khetis :D .... of course not all are bad, but good (or bad?) number of them is.

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:hehe:

When they throw stones at you, shout racial slurs/insults from a distant tells you something, no?

Their “hospitality” has expired.

I’m talking about young generation because thats what I faced when young :halo:

Thats what you are doing, but it only helps if someone listens to you or talks to you, when they are hostile towards you then you can’t help much.

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hey lajawab :hugz:

& thnx for sharing tht experience…:slight_smile: