no offence, but you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth in addition to some others holes in your body. I used the word strange previously. I apologize for it. What you are doing isn’t strange, it’s purely 100% Grade A USDA approved hypocrisy. Who are you to judge others when you don’t follow qur’an either. How are the people that twist islam to fit their life any different from you not practicing islam properly. Your sin is as worse as theirs. Why don’t you stop worrying about what others are doing and start concentrating on yourself.
Everyday, “muslims” continue to amaze me with their neanderthal, hypocritical, backward way of thinking.:halo:
Belief and action can be mutually exclusive...You can believe something to be correct or wrong but do the complete opposite...so for instance i believe fornication to be wrong cos Allah says so but as a horny man who loves to get laid i fail my test...Thats the whole point isnt i...Allah sets hurdle...you either pass or fail it...Instinct tends to win out with me...
Now as i stated my criteria is correct...i judge by Islam...meaning i know what is right and wrong and that is done by Islam and not by my own mind which will encourage me to follow my needs and wants in belief...
Ill give an example...People on this board debate issues like whether a woman should wear a hijab or mix before marriage...There are standard consensuses on the issues...Ill happily accept something that wont suit me in belief...whilst a lot of people on this board have decided the answer and seek proof to suit what they want...
Lol bro you can find proof for anything...Theres some boys in my area who say its Islamic to sleep around...cos England is land of war and the girls here are concubines...This is what i dont like...using Islam to justify the haram that you do...
My justification is that i have no justification...I have a lot of respect for my faith but im not ready to practice...meanwhile unlike the rest of these fools i dont try and make myself acceptable to everyone by finding proof that fornication is halal...free mixing is halal etc...
And as for me worrying about others...Its the concept that bothers me...you get people misleading people...'Islam says' is normally 'I think' and that pisses me off...and if you slander my faith i will react...my prophet had no faults so dont suggest he did anything untoward which some idiot did once before to justify her deplorable behaviour...
Look quite simply I have no issue with people who dont practice...most of my friends arent Muslim...i just get annoyed when people use Islam to justify sin...
Turning haram into halal is the height of hypocracy and i can honestly say that i dont do that...Im honest to myself and to others...
once again, you are beating around the bush without giving a straight-forward answer. How is what you are doing any less sinful than what other’s are doing. Please answer that. Shouldn’t you keep your mouth shut when other’s are commiting sins as you are doing the same. I certainly would. If not for any other reason than to stop violating the age-old saying “those who live in glass house shouldn’t…”.
sure, you judge by islam. Unless it’s time for you follow those same guideline. I don’t follow islam, but I will judge other’s that do the same. what a joke.
sure, you won’t stand others slandering islam. but you yourself don’t respect it enough to practice it. “it’s hard” or “i am too weak” isn’t a excuse. :halo:
Answer me this, hypothetically speaking, let’s say you go thru life breaking most of the islam’s teachings and someone somewhere else goes thru life twisting the qur’an to fit their life, say both of you are up before god (if he does exist) on judgement day (if there is such a thing). Where do you think you and the other person will end up. Heaven or hell. Quite frankly, if both of you don’t end up in hell, It would be a shock of a lifetime.
sure you don’t have any problem with people not following islam; how could you, it’s not like you do. But god forbid someone else commits another sin that you don’t approve of. It’s time to get the panty up in a bunch.
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Its quite simple mate...i dont claim not to sin...i am well aware that i am sinful...simple fact is i accept that and i dont claim to be an ambassador of Islam...
It just annoys me that people who as you point out are as sinful as I poke their nose and patronise me...im not saying im better...i sin...but dont get arrogant with me for a second...i dont initiate this argument...but when arrogant fools who like me dont pratcice get rude i will bring them back down to earth...
We have one girl o nthis forum ridiculing people for having girlfriends when she has a boyfriend...she prefers to call it a fiance cos that makes her feel better...im not that fussed what you call it until you claim islam makes it acceptable and im islamic cos then i will correct you...i dont need to practice to point out wrong...
As for your second comment if i claimed to be islamic then attack me...i attack double standards...never have i claimed to practice so i dont have a double standard...what you have however are people claiming to practice who based in on their own needs...just like people they deem disgraceful like me...but like i said they need a bad guy to feel better about themselves...
And i never said it was an excuse...its a reason but its not acceptable and i never claim that....
And agreed...i sin so i should go to hell and they are hypocrytes so they should go to hell...difference inshallah is that i will sort my **** out cos i know i need to improve...these people amend islam so dont feel a need to improve on their created islam...but sin is sin...regardless so we should both burn...
And as for your final paragraph...the issue is not about sin...its when you claim your sin to be ok in islam...
Geek...
Lol we have a comedian...must have taken you time to come up with something so creative...attention starved, confused , defender of islam eh...care to back that up...
you KNOW what you're doing is HARAM and yet you still do it.....hence Allah will punish you for that...cuz firstly ur doing something u 100% know is haram....and yet you still do it....then u tell everyone about what you've gone....maybe cuz u feel good about it? now that is a sin....and theres no doubt about the punishment for that...
on the other hand....there are some people who DONT know whether what they're doing is haram or not....maybe cuz they dont have enough knowledge about islam.....Allah will not punish a person who doesnt know if something was wrong.....
now everyone knows whos worse from the person who KNOWS they are doing bad and advertising it.....or the one who doesnt know they are doing anything wrong....
according to me the one who KNOWS they are doing haram....and still doing it.....they have no excuse whatsoever.
p.s. Allah likes people who are consistent with their good deeds....theres no point praying 5 prayers one day and doing extra prayers....and the next day not doing any prayers and sleeping with a hoe.....having a foot length beard one day and next day shaving it off...those are the worst of people....
If you dont do anything...when im out with my friends i dont preach trust me...but if anyone misquotes islam then i will jump in...some bengali guy was telling someone that it doesnt mention weed in the Quran so its cool...im gonna attack the point arent i...live how you want to live...just dont turn haram into halal...thats my issue.....
it does mention it.....all drugs would fit into the same category.....and they are haram because of the effect they cause
There was some idiot a while back saying its ok to have a fiance in Islam...Islam doesnt recognise the concept of fiances and doesnt allow you to mix...if someone slanders my faith surely i have a right to defend it......
NBN...im sure everyone is laughing reading your thread.....if you dont follow your faith at all.....why worry if others are following it? if your faith really means so much to you that u have to defend it....the best way to defend it would be to follow it PROPERLY yourself first.
as far as the faith is concerned....there are MANY dif opinions/translations/interpretations.....that on certain issues its hard to say if its haram or halal....not everything is black and white....there are grey areas too.
Lol Impulse what happened to you not replying my threads...
Not knowing something is one thing...but people like you are prime people who try and rearrabge Islam to suit their own lifestyles...so continue to free mix...thats kool...
Lol i remember your educated reason for free mixing...the prophet did it so obivously i can do it...thats precisely the problem i have with you people...the prophet never free mixed cos he was married to khadijah before he was Muslim but hey you need to make yourself feel better dont you...
Lol and your thing about difference of opinion...dont lie to yourself...lol free mxing is very clear...its just you choose to make it an ambiguous issue...its like those other stupid girls who make hijab an ambiguous issue cos it doesnt suit their lifestyles...lol if you enjoyed fornicating im sure you could find some evidence for that aswel...
Dont lie to yourself...dont claim ignorance...its just you people dont want to learn about your religion cos knowing it entails accountability...so not knowing about it allows you idiots to live in your bubble where you can be happy doing all the bull**** that you do...
And lol for the last time...my god so many of you have awful reading comprehension skills...i dont have a problem with people who dont practice...i have a problem with people who are arrogant without a basis...people who are pretend islamic who claim to be islamic...yet these idiots can patronise and be arrogant towards me...but hey like i said in my original post...you people need a bad guy so you can feel better about your own brand of Islam...
PS...The stuff about weed for instance isnt an ambiguous issue to you cos you dont like it...its not an ambiguous issue to me...iknow its haram...that bengali boy has your criteria where he turns something he likes into an ambiguous issue much like you people do with stuff like free mixing, hijab, music etc...he doesnt like it so its not clear cut...you dont like it so its not clear cut...thanks for illustarting my point...it would just be nice if you felt strongly on issues that actually do effect your life...
^ I didnt bother reading all the above post.....cuz im going to go and talk to my fiance now....i'll read it later IF/WHEN i get time.
p.s. I havent been coming on Gupshup much cuz ive had an important exam to do.....and alot of other things..hence I havent replied...ALSO I finished discussing this a few months ago....why have you brought something up that I said a few months ago?
someone in this thread was right....ur just an attention seeking....bored....person who has nothing better to do than pick other peoples faults....look at your own self first!!!!!
BYE ....and if i dont reply anytime soon it means im busy...
We have one girl o nthis forum ridiculing people for having girlfriends when she has a boyfriend...she prefers to call it a fiance cos that makes her feel better...
Lets see, which is worse? Someone your parents know about, they were fully involved in the process of you two meeting each other, that you do not seee privately, and have the full intention of getting married
or the bunch of girls you sleep with because you "love haram" too much to actually TRY and keep yourself under controL?
The only clown who needs to get off his high horse is you, for thinking you're much better jsut because you admit to and BRAG ABOUT zinna. You have absolutely ZERO regret and guilt, because if you did you wouldn't go around bragging about it, like you already do. If you knew even a little bit more about religion, you'd know that flaunting your sins is WRONG. It's one thing to regret what you do and actually attempt to stop it and erase that past, but the way you are--you're in absolutely NO position to even dare try judging us.
Sara i notice you have a 'fiance' these days so you feel the need express your pearls of wisdom...
Simple point...read it twice if you need to...I admit to haram...wrong obviously and i have never defended my actions...Its not a boast...if someones discussing something they discuss their experiences...if i discuss something thats alien to you...it automatically becomes a boast...god you people come up with some stupid comments...
If you remember it was actually that nosy soul Impulse that riased a post asking everyone what their marital status was and asked me questions about my girlfriend...so how can you fools criticise someone for contributing to a thread...
Cocky *****es like yourself and your friend Impulse feel a need to express your disgust and poke your nose at people who you deem to commit haram...this when you both do it aswell...and using your methods 'boast' about it...me talking about my girlfriend is the same as you talking about your as you term it fiance...
Your criteria isnt Islam...its what suits you...just like people like me who you criticise and poke your nose at...come back down to earth for a minute and realise that you are no more islamic than me...so dont poke your nose at me...
To you stupid girls...if you dont like it it must be ambiguous...so when you ask a question about Islam you wait for that answer that suits you and take that one and if no CORRECT answer is forthcoming then it becomes an ambigious issue...you lot chat too much nonsense seriously...
So as to who is better...netiher of us is particularly impressive...difference between us...none really...we just do different things...criteria is pretty much the same...do what i like and dont do what i dislike...its just i dont live in a little bubble where i turn my haram into halal to make myself feel good about myself...
I dont judge people who dont pratcice...i judge people who poke their nose and judge others...
what a joke.