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alright, then every second post of yours.
point out kindly.....
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In your opinion, what constitutes abuse?
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come on. I havent searched your previous posts but I read loads of posts of yours on the very very same thing. Repeating the same thing I mean. You dont want to own is thats something else.
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In your opinion, what constitutes abuse?
Physical abuse…and not fulfilling the rights…
i own every thing i say… and yes i repeat it too…just like others repeat their viewpoint when a same topic appears…
But don’t give me the ‘generalization’ lecture at least…its quite obvious who is more into generalization business…u know what i mean…i am sure u have seen recent threads 
BTW…i am just speaking against those who overdo the ‘oppression/abuse’ thing…if someone doesn’t…no need to feel bad… i didn’t know you would come argue with me when i said the same thing that you said in ur original post…its kinda funny 
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I'm sure guys can still find women who are patient and home-oriented. Just gotta look at the right places. City girls are more likely to be more "free," but then again it depends on the tarbiyat.
now come on, KaafHaa!
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lol? What happen?
Is that too controversial?
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city girls are fine. atleast they wouldnt beat their MILs and husbands :halo:
if you meant that city girls are free so “pind” girls should be better you need another thought coming 
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Village girls don't beat their in laws??? O_o
And you can't deny city girls are a little more "free" as in outgoing and stuff. They think they know-it-all.
Sorry city girls, no offense. There are some really nice, traditional city girls as well, not denying that.
Again, depends on the tarbiyat.
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In your opinion, what constitutes abuse?
Physical abuse...and not fulfilling the rights.....
What kind of rights?
and also, what should be done in such cases?
Also, do you believe that verbal or psychological abuse exists?
For the record, I agree that some of the women here do complain a lot and make a big deal out of little things.
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Village girls don't beat their in laws??? O_o
And you can't deny city girls are a little more "free" as in outgoing and stuff. They think they know-it-all.
Sorry city girls, no offense. There are some really nice, traditional city girls as well, not denying that. Again, depends on the tarbiyat.
What, in your opinion, is a nice, traditional girl like? and what is a 'free' city girl like?
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you interviewing me or something 
Its offtopic you know… i don’t want to derail the thread any further…
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I think I’ll start a new thread then.
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What, in your opinion, is a nice, traditional girl like? and what is a 'free' city girl like?
You know...
Ummm...err...Let me think, first.
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Mirage its a very interesting topic to discuss and most debatable topic. I believe that Today's girls are more independent and aware of their rights. But sometimes they misuse their rights.
Yes it is true that our mothers have more patience than US. but mostly those woman are confined to their houses, most of them were not working women and above all at that time our society was totally different. women was under pressure, parents usually don't support their daughter even in worst circumstances. At that tie most of the parents believe "beti ab tmhara JANAZA hi us ghar sey nikly ga".
But now time has changed. Women are more educated and more independent. They know in case of divorce they can support themselves or even their children. they won't be burden on their parents or brothers. But it does not mean that they married with the plans for divorce.
Now girls try their best in starting of their wedding to compromise and adjust with their in laws. But things don't go their way or they don't get anything good from their in laws, they start whining and all. They know that they don't have any obligation for their in laws but still they try to do everything to please their susrali's but after several unsuccessful attempts they claim for their separate house. They just do not waste their whole life to please those people who are not willing to accept her.
Once i heard from my bro in law "agar koi larka 30 yrs main apny parents sey separate hony ki baat kerta hai, tu us k peechy valid reasons hoty hain, because every guy is attached with his family and he can't leave his family without any solid reason". If he takes any action it means he has observed his parents behavior.
I believe that every women try her best to save her married life.
I am not agreed with women when they start saying "we are oppressed by our in laws and husband because they are not letting me do job." I think these type of issues could be solved, If your husband is not allowing you to do job, then leave the idea of job and search for any other hobby which will keep you busy and your husband has no issues with it.
But yes divorce is not a SOLUTION to small issues, they could be solved by changing yourself or habbits.
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apart from everything, what puts me off the most is this common piece of advice and solution: change your self, change your habits and all that. Why only one person is supposed to change themselves and submit and everything always. And when this one person will turn into the MIL maybe they will do the same as they suffered from. So it will go on. Whats so wrong with acknowledging right from wrong and creating a balance.
The problem is: women or men, its each ones responsibility to play their part honestly. In the same way, SIL or MIL, one of them should never be manipulated and exploited in the name of society and norms.
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apart from everything, what puts me off the most is this common piece of advice and solution: change your self, change your habits and all that.
Because it's just easier to do that....change your way of approaching things, change your attitude etc, and in most cases (NOT in abuse)....it does work. I know there are some habits I changed about myself that has resulted in a better relationship with my husband because he's started to reciprocate and change things about himself.
I totally get what you're saying though, its not fair that the woman is the one who has to change but in most relationships (not just marital), the other person will notice the change and reciprocate. and if they don't...then at least you know you did your best and made an effort.