YES ! Pakistan was used.

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But imagine if it was ‘state assisted’ ‘Operation Tiptoe’ then mumbai would be still burning by now.
Assumingly if it was conducted by some lame outfit of banned jihadi setup then I suggest they might come very handy in case of full strike war between Hindustan and Pakistan.
For argument sake Pakistan has its nukes for deterent, now they can also mobilize these jihadis against Hindustan and Hindustan ONLY (since indians are so facinated by them, lets give them a full view )

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I don't know what message you are trying to convey but this "jihadism" is a menace, it is same menace pushing us from western border and if we thing we can use this eastern-side menace for some chest-thumping against India then you are dead wrong. In current world situation its in our interest to curb them and finish off.

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I doubt there will be a war.

India is smart to merely hint at war and pursue a diplomatic offensive. We are very close to being officially sanctioned for "sponsoring" terrorism. Just listen to what Condi Rice said today:

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Well, I did say to the Pakistanis that the argument that these are non-state actors is not acceptable. In fact, non-state actors acting from your territory is still your responsibility. Obviously, there are issues of arrests of people who might have been involved. First, of course, to involve themselves very transparently in the investigation.
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Deniability is long gone. Everyone now believes that LT and other jihadi groups have official support in Pakistan. Therefore their bad actions will be laid at the feet of Pakistan army and ISI.

We need to end this danger now.

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WE keep talking like that and we will end up like the Taliban.

This "war" will not be military. It will be diplomatic and economic.

TRust me, China may come to our support in the last minute but even Saudis will stay away if we take on the whole world in order to preserve our jihadi proxies.

All our past wars had the luxury of us being against India and India alone. Without oil and basic dollars to sustain the economy, we will be hard pressed to survive a fight against everyone combined.

End this irresponsible war talk and focus on the issue at hand.

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I am not talking about capturing them and then shooting/bombing them. We all know they were created by our agencies and I am sure our agencies can still influence them, have contacts and know all their leadership. All we need to do is put all the leadership in one big place (jail-like) and then "brain-wash" them to bring them in 21st century so they stay in government control and not jeopardise Pakistan ever again, and nuff with their jihad. Tell them to use their schooling power to better use.

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[mod]Guys, stick to the topic[/mod]

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Re: YES ! Pakistan was used.

Let's talk sense. We have enough oil for may be 2 weeks after any war breaks out.

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The point of the thread is "hum pay ilzaam to waisay bhi hai aisay bhi sahi "
Pakistan is a smaller nation compare to India, hence what ever means are neccessary to defend against this raging bull should be used and mobilized. Including these Jihadis.

Many Generations ahve seen this madness from India with frequent intervels should now be tammed and its back strapped. Bohat ho gaya ab Bhaarti drama

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Ask any Afghan warrior and they will tell you how they can mobilize 100s of warriors on ZKMH without OIL.

We are their cousins and it should not be any different.
India should worry more.

Heck, I'm looking forward to it

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What useless bravado?! This is the type of idiotic jazbaati thinking that gets us into trouble every time.

Wars are won with logistics, strategy and will. Blind belief in your own martial ability while underestimating your enemy is a sure recipe for disaster.

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You are looking forward to war? I see a very angry frustrated irrational man.
Why can't you understand that its these same jihadis that bomb your cities all the time? Let's go kill them!!!

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thats why we are in the trouble we are today, i.e cousins.

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if you have that much patriotism at least change the thread title! isn't it insulting to talk about your country as if it is a used up?

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The Afghan warrior syndrome and super ego has sure done wonders for Afghanistan. Yeah, they are giving NATO a hard time, but at what cost?

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Well frankly the Jihadis that are bombing our cities and Jihadis that are involved in terrorr attacks in India are "Very Different"

Jihadis that have been bombing our cities are Taliban and Alqaeda, these are the people whom we have long suspected to be getting funds from India thru their numerous camps along Pak-Afghan border.

LeT, if it really IS involved in bombay attacks, has never engaged in terrorr activities agianst Pak army or suicide bombings in Pakistan.

Not that i condone these attacks but just to put the thinsg in perspective.

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^ so what If both terrorist org are different? They are anyway killing innocent people and islam doesn't permit both the idiology.

Beside I agree with many of the posters that War between two countries is not solution, Instead we need to focus on root-cause of the terrorism and 'brain-wash' them back to mainstream...

Hope somehow we can find out who are the financiers for these terrorist activities and stop them. IMO they are real culprit

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^May be you missed the posters remark that many in Pakistan beleive that Taliban are getting help from India!
Now attacks like that on mumbai does not require lot of money, but keeping an army like Taliban do in a vast region and engaging Pak army does require a LOT of money.