Yeh.....Ajit Agarkar is BACK !!

After the eyewash “resting” of some so-called senior players in the aftermath of the WC rout, the Indian team is back in familiar territory. The writing on the wall is loud and clear - You only have to perform if you are not a Marathi :


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/297784.html

India’s one-day squad Gautam Gambhir, Robin Uthappa, Sourav Ganguly, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid (capt), Yuvraj Singh, Dinesh Karthik, Mahendra Singh Dhoni (vice-capt, wk), Rohit Sharma, Ramesh Powar, Ajit Agarkar, Piyush Chawla, Zaheer Khan, RP Singh, Sreesanth.

India’s Test squad Wasim Jaffer, Dinesh Karthik, Gautam Gambhir, Rahul Dravid (capt), Sachin Tendulkar (vice-capt), Sourav Ganguly, VVS Laxman, Yuvraj Singh, Ramesh Powar, Anil Kumble, Zaheer Khan, Sreesanth, RP Singh, Ishant Sharma, Ranadeb Bose.


I will take an out-of-form Pathan in place of in-form Agarkar (if there is such a thing) anyday. Also, I repeat, Pathan is a better batsman than Uthappa and Gambhir.

And why is Powar included in both versions - his fielding sucks, his bowling/batting is nothing beyond ordinary.

I thought Munaf was the only bowler who performed decently in the World Cup…yet he is dropped and the joker Agarkar is included.

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What does your Signature say???

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Mazhab nahin sikhaata...aapas mein bair rakhna...

dats wat his signature says...

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It says : Nikema चूतिया है .

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are u sure it doesnt say: Baal Thakuray Zindabaad?

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As soon as I read the news of agrakar being summoned back to the Indian team, I could not quit smiling thinking of some1 and his ultimate payaar for Agarkar!!

On a serious note, regardless of what some1 thinks of agarkar, the fact remains that agarkar has a superb ODI record . With 276 wickets in 183 matches at an average of 27.55 with an exceptional strike rate of 32.86, he is one of the most successful ODI bowler that India has ever produced by far. He has leaked runs at 5 runs per over which is not bad in today’s batsmen-friendly pitches by any means. Now you guys tell me, would you consider agarkar a bad blower who has bowelled his 10 overs for 50 runs with 2 wickets in every single match that he has played so far?..some1’s problem is that he considers agarkar as an all rounder which he is not and he has many times indicated that he wants to be a bowler only. So some1, please stop bashing agarkar just because he is more good looking than you…….:snooty:

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^ Sirjee...I don't think of Agarkar as an all-rounder. In fact I don't think of him as anything.

Reasons I hate him.
(1) He first played for India in 1998.
NINE YEARS later, he is still to establish his place in the Indian side. This should be reason enough to kick him out for good. All this time, many players more talented than him have been tried and let go but he continues to hang around.

(2) His bowling is way too "friendly". His economy rate in ODIs is 5.03. He bowls at least one FOUR/SIX delivery (half-volley) every over.

(3) Most of his ODI wickets have come from slog overs. I have rarely seen him doing much damage to the opposition's batting at the start or middle of the ODI innings.

(4) His stoop, his run up and his overall body language is extremely passive.

(5) He SUCKS big time with the bat....though he is still categorized as "all-rounder" for some reason.

Finally, it is no secret that he totally SUCKED during the World Cup...and was dropped for the BD tour. Now, please tell me what did he do between then and now to reclaim his place....when a much more talented player like Irfan Pathan continues to get punished for underperforming.

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Can not be divulged on a family forum, but suffice it to say it would be deemed illegal in several states of the US.

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Well, i agree that somehow he always looks confused and passive in the field after playing international cricket for nine years and 183 matches. Whenever, he gets hit for a boundary, he simply throws his head down and starts walking to his bowling mark with no hint of aggression whatsoever. He should be a mentor for young guys but no one ever looks to him to guide young bowlers. This has been an issue and it could very well be his personality.

But some1, leaking 5 runs per over is not a big deal considering the fact that he always bowls in slog overs too. Look at his strike rate of 32 regardless of slog-overs wickets or not. 280 wickets in 180 matches at 27.55 is no joke; seriously. Every other indian fast bowler had had an oppurtunity to bowl in slog overs but no one produced these results including kapil dev and sri nath. Srinath produced 315 wickets in 219 matches at an average of 28 with a strike rate of 38 and leaked 4.5 runs per over. Agarkar beats him in every department except runs per over which is very close anyway.

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Could you please elaborate on the "deal" little bit more from the legal standpoint. I am just trying to educate myself. Thanks

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Some1, My honest opinion about Agarkar is that he is not that bad a bowler. I was extremely excited to watch him when i saw him for the first time 1998 sahara cup...(the guy was young, seemed to be enjoying his cricket, looked more aggrasive than an average indian cricket...every think that i look forward to see in Indian cricketer), even though he went for plenty in that series but to me he looked more of a bowler (even in that lost series) than Mohanty, Kuruwella and another singh guy (the trio from 1997 Sahara cup, the one India won) combine.

Thats a very good observation from you about him taking alot of lower order wickets, but these days who is perfectly consistent with new ball these days??

There is no way i would have seen him getting dropped from Eng tour coz this eng tour is happening in later part of the summer and 2 ouutaa three matches are in Lords and Oval, both grounds one needs a bowler who is good swing bowler with new ball and ( and frankly Ajit (when he gets it right) has a beautiful Out swing with new ball ) amd with old ball due to Slingy action can get better reverse swing that what Pathan would. Plus hescored a few runs there when last time he toured with India and has more county/league experince than Irfan. Plus the way i see it is that they will have Zaheer, Sreesanth and RPsingh as Main bowlers, in this case irfan would be thrid L.armer which can lower the effieceny of bowling attack.

So all these things considered i think Ajit is not that bad a choice, atleast for Eng tour. I personally wouldnt role out that Irfan can be sent in later on this this tour as selectors may think that keeping him out of squad perhaps is going to make him re-think about his game and improve on it. So dont be surprise if Irfan still ends up reaching Eng.

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nice post nikemae with some solid content.

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PD, to tell you honestly, I do not consider WICKETS in ODIs as a gauge of a bowler's caliber esp if the accompanying economy rate is not good.
The fact is, in the slog overs, batsmen (more often than not) throw their wickets away. By the way, even Tendulkar has taken 5 wickets twice and 4 wickets 4 times in ODIs.

I will concede one thing though - yes, Agarkar is one of the better slog over Indian bowlers. He tends to mix up the balls better than other Indian bowlers during the slog overs. That said, Agarkar is just not an attacking bowler. He is not the bowler who you can hope to rip the opposition apart. His bowling statistics in TESTS is abysmal (and this is a better indication of a bowler's ability).

Finally...my point is, what more is left to see of Agarkar which we have not seen in NINE YEARS. He will simply deliver more of the same. Why not try new players instead of him ?

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well, I have to agree with you on this one. His test record is a mess and yes test record is the real indication of a bowler's caliber.

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Among the several theories in Indian kirket circles on how Agarkar manages to stay in the team include his having rendered some, err..."physical services"... to influential members of the team / selection committee - some of which services would get him jail time in states like Georgia.

This Agarkar debate is interesting - am fully with Some1 on this, but the stats that you have dug up are impressive. I had no idea that our macchar pehelwan was this effective. Must be a case of ghar ki murgi daal barabar, for I confess having the same reaction when I hear criticism of Sami from Pak Guppies - all I see from my vantage point is the plus 90 mph speed, so cant understand why you wouldnt want him in the team.

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As far as test Records are concern, Ajit and Sami are Ture Bhaai Bhaai:D

Damn it!1 One of our Worse Bowler ever's Record is identical to one of India's Finest:D

Damn You Sami:D, I say we kill him for that.

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Actually, one more thing they have in common is their occasional ferocious glare. Once in a while, Agarkar will unleash this peed-off stare on an unsuspecting batsman. Have seen Sami do the same. Sami does win hands down in the hair-care department though.

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Agarkar more than makes up for it in the "big ears" department.

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thank you for being so eloquent on such a sensitive issue..:D

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The person whose omission surprised me was Harbhajan's. I do not know why is is left out, a quality off spinner, has bowled india to victories a couple of time in his career. More so any other thing is the fact is that Its ENg, India is playing against and no matter what you have to play your one of the better spinners against them.......Could it be that its KP factor that has gotten into indian selectors so much tat they decided to keep their main Off Spinner ouuta tour?