Yajuj & Majuj Have Been Released

The Jews were banned from Israel after they broke their covenant with Allah. Since than, they haven’t had a homeland of their own, governed & ruled by themselves, and sovereign.

*But there is a ban on any population which We have destroyed: that they shall not return, Until the Gog and Magog (people) are let through (their barrier), and they swiftly swarm from every hill.
*Surah Al-Anbiyaa, Verse 95-96

The Jews returned back to Israel, and formed a sovereign nation, in 1949. This is a clear indication that Yajuj & Majuj have been released.

What do you think?

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Gog and Magog(yajuj and Majuj) will appear after the coming of Jesus(AS) and after he kills dajjal, so wait until Jesus(AS) arrives.

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So what of this verse? How did Jews return if a ban was put on?

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hmmmm....yes in ahadith it also says that some sahaba(ra) found holes in that barrier(wall that Zulqurnain built). Allah knows best.

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some people say that the King Zulqurnain was Alexander the Great

you guys know anything more about this?

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And some says he was King Cyrus of Persia.

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then those hadees might also says that where these walls are located!!!

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^yes, but I don't remember the hadith fully, I'll try to find inshaallah.

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True. Our local Imam was once telling us in the Masjid that King Zulqarnain, Alexander the Great and an another person were the first people to discover the entire world. I thought what a dodo that Imam was (he was educated and brought from Pakistan).

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I disagree because:

1) Jews think WE are the gog and magog.
2) If you study the story, you will see zul-Qarnain recognizing the only ONE true God. Alexander was a pagan... Kurosh was a true Zoroastrian who believed in Ahura Mazda (al-Karim).
3) This story you narrated from surah Kahaf is of Cyrus/Kurosh/zul-Qarnain who himself released the Jews from Babylon to go back to their homeland a LONG TIME AGO; like 500BC. That is when the Torah was written down.

The gog and magog refers to any nation that wreaks havoc on another natons land.

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This is the most authentic or reasonable conclusion regarding Zulqarnain (RA).

Since he is famous for wearing a 2 horned helmet and "Zulqarnain" in arabic means:
Zul = of
Qarn = Horns ; qarnain = two horns

Also, the most probable location of the great wall of Zulqarnain is in the Caucasus Range in the Black Sea.
Since the Gog and Magog are the decendants of Nuh (AS)'s son Yaafith (Japheth). This is the same as the turks. And most likely the Wall which is supposed to be at a mountain pass surrounded by mountains, it seems the most logical that it is in that area (Caucasus Mountains) between the black sea and the caspian sea.

In general the scholars have argued over 4 fours as being possible walls of Zulqarnain. This includes the wall of China. And they have come to the conclusion that the most reasonable one that fits the need and description as in the Quran and Hadith, plus historic proofs is the one near the Caucasus.

Another reason that Cyros (Persian name "Kurush buzurg") has the same time perdiod as Prophet Ibrahim (AS) and in some ahadith it is mentioned that he was obedient to Prophet Ibrahim AS and his follower. (WAllahu Alam)

Plus Cyros's expeditions seem to coincide with what the Quran states of Zulqarnain, West, East and a third direction.

(Wallahu Alam)

May Allah SWT protect us from the test of Yajuj and Majooj (Gog And Magog).

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So Abraham existed 500BC??

Also, please check your Arabic

Zul= owner/possessor of

Qarn = Nation/Horn

AIN= Arabic for two (it is a suffix)

so Zulqarnain = He of the Two Nations/Horns

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It’s not the Jews. The ancesters of the Turks are Yajuj Wa Majuj and the wall is somewhere in central Asia, in or around Armenia.

In the Qur’an Allah Almighty sometimes says that a day to Him is equivalent to our one thousand years (22:47, 32:5) and at others He mentions around 50,000 years (70:4). Allah Almighty also says again and again that the Judgement Day will happen, is happening and has already happened. He also describes people who are in Heaven and Hell right now.

All that just means that Allah Almighty is not bound by time… all thes thousands of years are only a single moment to Him. So, Muslims should not indulge in predicting heavenly events according to man-made calenders.

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Yes I messed that up typing quickly. But please check your arabic as well. Qarn cannot mean nation. It can mean "horn" or "century~hundred years"

Zul = of / to which something belongs

Qarnain = plural of qarn = horns / centuries - Most popular opinion in this case is horns.
Sorry but Qarn does not mean nation.
Please check your "QAMOOS".

And yes he is should be from 500 BC or earlier. And the ages then were in the hundreds of years to the extent of thousands.
Prophet Ibrahim AS is considered the father of the 3 divine religions present today. Since it is from his progeny of Prophet Ishaq that countless prophets came. Untill Prophet Esa AS was sent. Similary from Ismael AS came Rasul Allah SAW.
So Prophet Ibrahim needs to be in the 500 BC + era.

Plus what I stated above is not from my stomach. Rather reputed scholars of Sunnah have come up with these conclusions. Still Allah sWT knows best.
It could be wrong.

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Qaaf-Raa-Nun

to join one thing with another, couple. qarnin/qarnan - generation, century. qarn (dual qarnani, oblique qaraini, plu. qurun) - horn, trumpet. Often used to symbolise strength/power/glory. qarunun (pl. qurana) - mate, comrade, intimate companion. muqarranin - bound together. muqrinina - capable of subduing. muqtarinin - those formed in serried ranks, accompanying ones.
Dzu al Qarnain (Zulqarnain/dhul-qarnayn) - the two horned one, one belonging to two century, or two generation, master of two states/kingdoms. The surname of Cyrus (Darius 1) the ruler of Media and Persia which were combined into a single kingdom under him.

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The average age/mortality-rate between 500BC and 500AD in the middle eastern regions was about 50 years.

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^
aap ploug kahaaN "Qarn-e-Oolaa" kee baatoN maiN paR gaye :)

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^ Thank you. That clarifies a lot doesn't it.

Even your reference likes to call him of "2 horns or centuries" And Generation would be different then nation.
This is where I got distracted when you used nation instead of generation.

Good discussion though.

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Cyrus was king of Media and Persia .. two nations...

PS: ever heard of Qareen? Same root

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In the end it is going to the same root discussion. And it seems that the conclusion of Cyrus being a strong contender for Zulqarnain is strong.