Re: Ya Allah Mujhay SH. Rasheed Jaisa na bana
Ameer Muqaam (Mush's 'brother) being accepted by NS.
iski tou khushi manayi gayi thi PMLN kay halqoun main kay PMLN strong ho gayi hay KP main.
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Ameer Muqaam (Mush's 'brother) being accepted by NS.
iski tou khushi manayi gayi thi PMLN kay halqoun main kay PMLN strong ho gayi hay KP main.
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Why 'norm in Pakistani Politics' doesn't apply here hanibal? ;) It seems it is okay if whole KP PML(Q) joins in with NS but one insignificant politician eating his words and accepting another insignificant politician is a big issue?
IK tau phir aik zamany main Mush ka supporter tha. You didn't really have any objections on Marvi Memon (former director ISPR under Mush and very close ally with him) and Ameer Muqaam (Mush's 'brother) being accepted by NS.
so what ypu want to say is PTI's stance on change is just a lie, when PTI says we are different that is a lie.. and PTI is just a traditional party who look forward or do anything to get in power... if this is the case then by all means celebrate his inclusion, after all he is seasoned politician knows how lick shine the boots... his inclusion will be the greatest achievement for PTI...
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So Imran Khan is like Zardari?
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So Imran Khan is like Zardari?
If NS talks about grand alliance is that fine?
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I remember when Afzal Sindhu joined PTI a few days ago, PMLN and PPP supporters inlcuding leaders raised questions and posted remarks such as "What a change, PTI is taking rejected people from other parties". Now everyone knows that Afzal Sindhu has GREAT reputation and he didn't even hesitate to open Zardari's cases. PTI was criticised when SMQ and J Hashmi joined as well even though PMLN were tried their best to get SMQ and whole party leadership tried their best to stop Javed Hashmi.
When they heard about Amir Muqam joining PTI, they called him Musharaff's brother and then accepted him in their own party.
Change is not about importing new faces from Mars or moon, the change is about:
Accountability: PTI asking it's leaders to declare assets ensures no one is joining party to make money. It will also ensure taxes are properly paid by the leaders who often don't pay ANY taxes.
Party elections: Giving power to average people to select their own leaders. Party elections will ensure that people with bad reputation will not be selected. Even then no one is guaranteed a party ticket.
Howelse do you bring change?
Did i objected on Afzal Sindhu? he is a decent man, a patriot i must say....
BTW when are those party elections?
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PML-N Pindi ranks creaking | DAWN.COM
**RAWALPINDI, April 29: PML-N leadership has taken to the warpath against the PPP but maybe it should be worrying more about the strength of its own ranks in a battle. Dawn has learnt that the findings of a secret survey conducted to gauge the popularity and performance of PML-N lawmakers in the urban areas of this garrison city has sounded alarmbells in the party.
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**Carried out by the intelligence wing of Punjab police, on the directive of the party stalwart and leader of the opposition in the National Assembly, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, the survey found that the popularity graph of PML-N in Rawalpindi city had fallen sharply.
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Rawalpindi’s urban areas are known to be the stronghold of the PML-N and in the general elections of February 2008 the party had clinched five of the National Assembly and 11 of the provincial assembly seats. The PPP could managed to grab only one NA seat from Gujar Khan and two provincial assembly seats from the rural areas while the PML-Q was left with one provincial assembly seat in Taxila.
A PML-N leader requesting not to be named said the opposition leader in the National Assembly was in-charge of the party’s Rawalpindi division and in order to check its popularity graph he had directed the police special branch last month to conduct the survey.
According to the findings of the survey received two weeks back, the PML-N workers and supporters came down hard on their party leaders and provincial ministers for not resolving their problems. It said the residents of these urban constituencies had held the provincial government equally responsible for the federal government’s failure to provide basic facilities to them. It also pointed out that the elimination of dual votes in the new electoral lists would create problems in the urban areas as most of the PML-N voters belonging to Murree were settled in Sadiqabad, Muslim Town, Shamsabad, Raja Bazaar, Nayya Mohallah and College Road.
The likely seat adjustment between Awami Muslim League of Sheikh Rashid Ahmed and Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf would create further problems for the PML-N by clinching the votes of those who were angry with it.
“After receiving the report, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan called a meeting of the local lawmakers in the Punjab House last week and discussed the issue with them,” said the PML-N leader, adding Mr Khan directed the participants of the meeting to launch a cleanliness drive in the city areas consisting of NA-55 and NA-56 under the supervision of MPAs so that people-to-leaders contact could be promoted.
He said Mr Khan also sought weekly performance report from the MNAs and MPAs and directed them to contact party workers in their respective areas on a daily basis.
Aqib Khan, a PML-N worker in Union Council-2 Dhoke Ratta, told Dawn that party supporters were unhappy over the performance of the area MNA and MPAs. “Mostly they remain busy in Lahore and Islamabad and pay less attention to resolve the problems of the masses,” he said.
Malik Yasir, a resident of Nayya Mohallah and also a PML-N worker, said the residents staged a protest demonstration against the federal government in the winter against low gas pressure but the MNAs were not there.
He said when the residents contacted the MNAs and MPAs for resolution of their problems; they were told that they had no say in the affairs of the federal government.
When contacted by Dawn, MNA Malik Shakeel Awan said: “I am not aware of the survey. Rawalpindi is the fort of PML-N and the people here love Nawaz Sharif and they will also vote him in the next general elections.” He said the popularity graph of the PML-N was increasing due to Nawaz Sharif’s firm stands on different issues. He said the PML-N paid first priority to the well-being of its workers.
MPA Shaharyar Riaz added: “The survey was conducted during the last two weeks but I don’t know about its findings.” The MPA said he was not in the meeting held at the Punjab House. “But my colleagues had informed me about the details.”
The general secretary of the PML-N’s Rawalpindi chapter and former MNA from NA-55, Haji Pervaiz Khan, admitted that the secret survey was conducted. “In the survey, the PML-N workers and supporters expressed their resentments over the performance of the sitting MNAs,” he observed.
He, however, said the popularity of the party would improve if the elected representatives worked to resolve the public issues.
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yeah right, a ordinary worker of PML-N defeated sh rasheed when he had all the support from PPP... and now they are creaking.... yeah right
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^ so you want to say that people are not angry with PMLN? her taraf doodh ki nehrain beh rahi hain Punjab main?
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^ so you want to say that people are not angry with PMLN? her taraf doodh ki nehrain beh rahi hain Punjab main?
so now we want to talk about PML-N???
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PTI phenomena is because of frustration with PMLN in the first place.
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^^ Frustration of who? Establishment? i agree!
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Back to the topic,
If NS make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision
If AZ make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision
If IK make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision
fail to see a difference here... after all PTI is a party which is depended on the winning capabilities of ex-PPP and PML politicians... who were nothing else but the reason of the mess Pakistan is in... and now suddenly after being dry-cleaned they are good for Pakistan again... yeah right..
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ASk any PTI supporter here and they will provide you with one hundred and one ( read it is Punjabi) that IK never meant that, he always wanted this alliance to happen...
when u asks for reason , resson should be given, and why imran khan has not declared alliance with all other parties. you mean imran khan should not make alliance, but asks all parties to join PTI?
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^^ Frustration of who? Establishment? i agree!
I dont know why people complain against establishment where the parliament is supreme(by politicians).
actually, we select politicians and politicians are not ethically strong to talk to establishment
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Back to the topic,
If NS make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision If AZ make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision If IK make such decision, the worker and supporters would go any length to defend him and his decision
fail to see a difference here... after all PTI is a party which is depended on the winning capabilities of ex-PPP and PML politicians... who were nothing else but the reason of the mess Pakistan is in... and now suddenly after being dry-cleaned they are good for Pakistan again... yeah right..
do you think that IK should be prime minister of social media only, and make speach in large universities, and not to address the local level politics. what options IK has other than doing this.
and its true, people liked IK very much before the dry-cleaned politicians has joined PTI, but what to do with such likes on facebook that wont get vote.
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so what ypu want to say is PTI's stance on change is just a lie, when PTI says we are different that is a lie.. ......
I have written many times before and I again say that I believe the slogans of 'change' are political slogans and don't mean much. On the whole, you must balance your criticism too and accept that NS embraced many Mush boot lickers into his party too.
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Where is AP? Why is he blocked?
imandari, revolution aor tsunami ke ghubaray men se hawa nikal gai. Next is mqm joining hands with PTI. Establishment is still active in politics.:)
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PTI phenomena is because of frustration with PMLN in the first place.
It's not phenomena, it's a phobia that has gripped many.
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I have written many times before and I again say that I believe the slogans of 'change' are political slogans and don't mean much. On the whole, you must balance your criticism too and accept that NS embraced many Mush boot lickers into his party too.
what other slogans are political slogans aka lies??? can you let us know??
elimination of corruptions, using the same corrupt politicians?
elimination of role of army, using the boot lickers of army?
elimination of status-quo by embracing the beacons of status-quo
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C’mon now… you know and I know that slogans are … slogans. Just that.
Do you really want to go there? This leads to ‘qarz utaro, mulk sunwaro’ and ‘go zardari go’ and ‘BB ham sharminda hain, teray qatil zinda hain’ and the recent “Three E’s” directly copied from PPP manifesto and stuff like that. Even Nawaz Sharif is now talking about ‘Real Change’.
Why do you complain when PTI goes and uses the same tactics being used by political parties for decades now? For them, you’d claim immunity of ‘political norms of South Asian politics’.
Bring something concrete. Talk about corruption scandals of PTI leaders and members. Talk about PTI’s stupid stance on Taliban and US. Criticize PTI’s inability to attract rural populations. Something substantial please.
That’s all there and you guys go on talking about PTI embracing establishment people without looking at Mush’s right hand people in current cabinet orlove affair between PML(N) and so called PML-Likeminded.