Ya Ali madad

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Ya Ali madad

@Sa1eem

I know that misguided (or people with wahabi believe) would say that these ayahs are valid when Prophet (SAW) was alive, but we Muslims believe that these ayahs are valid at all time until judgment day … and that asking forgiveness making Prophet (SAW) as intermediary is also valid until judgment day, and that death of a person does not change anything … because person is always there, only his nafs dies (detaching the person from material world of test).

Who is denying waseela of the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)here?

Just as much you are allergic to ‘wahabis’ trust me people are allergic to Bralvis

@Sa1eem

As far as acts of earlier Muslims, there are numerous hadiths where people asked from Prophet (SAW) as intermediaries for sorting out worldly problems, even after the death of Prophet (SAW). Do some search and you would find them.

Who is denying waseela of the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)here?

Bralevis bring every pir fakir you name it as waseela apart from the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)

@Sa1eem

One should know that only Kafirs and Mushriks believe that God literally comes down on earth and help them directly … like Kali Mai, Vishnu, Sunny, etc in Hindu beliefs getting born or materialising on earth (as autaar) to help them directly fighting evils, injustices or poverty. Greeks had many Gods and Goddesses like ‘Hercules’ coming down on earth to fight evil and help them directly. In case of Christians it is Isa (AS) who was born on earth to help them directly by washing their sins.

What’s this got to with the topic on hand?

@Sa1eem

Actually, many Kuffars thinks that God or Gods help them directly. It is this thinking that corrupted most religion Allah sent. Whenever believers started thinking that ‘Allah helps them directly’, with time they start considering whoever help them is God … and thus they become Kafir with numerous gods. Now it seems new breed are born amongst Muslims like Wahabis and Kharjees who believe the same that Allah literally help them directly and not through intermediaries.

Is it beyond Allah Almighty to help directly or is Allah Almighty dependent on the intermediaries and without them He can do nothing?

Enough said on this thread - do not intend go around in circles. I am going abroad for a week. This thread no more