Ya Ali madad

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Ya Ali madad

@Sa1eem

Other than ignorance, there is nothing wrong with call (by believers) ‘Ya Ali Madad’ . There are valid reasons behind this call that I am not going to go into in this post.

Sa1eem – Peace

Your post is very pretentious and reeks of arrogance mingled with ignorance. I have not responded to your posts before but I cannot let this pass.

This in fact shows your ignorance – If you have valid reasons then you must show them (not made by yourself to suit your whims or your pseudo rationality) and these should not contradict the blessed Quran or the noble Sunnah of the Blessed Messenger of Allah Almighty (peace and blessings be upon him).

You got to show us that making Dua (seeking help) to anyone other than Allah Almighty is valid – references from the Blessed Quran and the Blessed Sunnah and hadith of the Blessed Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) of Allah Almighty only.

@Sa1eem

Anyhow, some people have problem and they are same people who have problem calling anyone as Waseela, even calling Prophet (SAW) as waseela bothers them, and thus try to demean and humiliate Allah by their belief and attitude, what Shaitan Iblees did before getting ‘lanat’ of Allah.
These people do not realise (intentionally or under the influence of Shaitan) the differences between shirk and ibadah when calling someone other than Allah … as one call is call of ‘worship’ that is shirk and other call is call of ‘waseela’ that is ibadah (of Allah).

You must make a definite distinction between usage of Waseela and that of making Dua or invoking and seeking help from Allah Almighty.

The Blessed Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said “Duaa is worship” **(Sunnan Abi Dawud, hadith 1474 and Musnad Imam Ahmad) **

This clearly indicates that Dua should be ONLY DIRECTED to Allah Almighty and not to anyone one else.

Making Du’a (supplication) is part of worship, as Hz. Abdullah Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said, “The best forms of worship is the du’a” [Munthir and Ibn Haakim]

Requesting one’s parents, elders or pious people to make Dua for you is valid as this is Waseela – these will themselves turn to Allah Almighty for your Dua – they by themselves can do nothing!

These two verses below, Allah Almighty is saying that He directly listens to prayers of His slaves and He is closer to the slave than his own vein! So why do we need anyone else to approach Allah Almighty, when we can go directly to Allah Almighty?

He is the Living (One): There is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere devotion. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds! 40:65

Transliteration: Huwa alhayyu la ilaha illa huwa faodAAoohu mukhliseena lahu alddeena alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

“When My servants ask you about Me [tell them], ‘Verily I am close [to them]; I listen to the prayer of everyone who calls on Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me in order that the may be guided aright.’” (2:186)

@Sa1eem

These people question or reject the authority of Allah’s power to bestow or delegate status, value, authority, respect, or power to whoever Allah wants. They do not even know that Allah test these people just like Allah tested Shaitan, and under the influence of Shaitan, these people fail miserably.

Please leave your Opinionated Diatribes aside – there is definite difference between Invoking Allah Almighty and using Waseela to approach Him.

Wait, think this seriously – maybe it is other way round – Maybe it is You who doesn’t even know that it is you who is being tested by Allah Almighty! Ponder.

Indeed it is you who are failing miserably while pointing fingers at others.

@Sa1eem

Shaitan did the same, that is, when Allah gave ‘status of respect’ to Adam (AS), Angels accepted the authority of Allah with their ‘Sajdah of respect’ to Adam (AS) and that was ‘ibadah’ of Allah … even though for rejecters, it may seem shirk … but Shaitan rejected authority of Allah by protesting against ‘Sajdah of respect’ to Adam (AS).

Yet again you show your ignorance. Shaytaan the cursed rebelled against the command of Allah Almighty - Why are you lumping the deed of Shaytaan on others (Muslims)- You are showing arrogance.

In Islamic shareeyah sajdah to anyone besides anyone other than Allah Almighty is FORBIDDEN!

Al-Hakim related in Al-Mustadrak the following Hadith…

• Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Abdullah As-Saffar told us: Ahmad Ibn Mahdi Ibn Rustum Al-Asfahani told us: Mu’azh Ibn Hisham Ad-Distwani told us: My father told me: Al-Qasim Ibn ‘Awf Ash-Shaybani told me: Mu’adh Ibn Jabal - radiya Allahu’anhu - told us that he went to Sham and saw the Christians prostrate to their Bishops and priests and saw the Jews prostrate to their Rabbis and scholars.

He said, “Why do you do this?” they answered, “This is the greeting of Prophets (peace be upon him)”.
I said, “We better do this to our Prophet”.

Allah’s Prophet - salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam - said, “They lied about their Prophets just as they distorted their Book. If I were to command anyone to prostrate to anyone, I would command woman to prostrate to her husband for his great right upon her. No woman will taste the sweetness of Faith till she does her husband’s rights even if he asks herself while she is on a Qutub*”** (Al-Hakim commented, “This hadith is authentic according to standards of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, but they did not relate it”** **At-Tabarani in “Al-Mu’jam Al-Kabir” vol. 8, p.31 Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal in his Musnad vol. 4, p. 381 Ibn Hajar Al Haytami in his Majma’ Al Zawaaid, Volume 4, page 312. **

*When Mu`adh bin Jabal visited the Sham area, he found them prostrating before their priests. When he returned (to Al-Madinah), he prostrated before the Messenger of Allah , who asked him:

What is this, O, Mu`adh?

Mu`adh said, "I saw that they prostrate before their priests. However, you, O Messenger of Allah, deserve more to be prostrated before.‘’

The Messenger said,

If I were to order anyone to prostrate before anyone else (among the creation), I would have ordered the wife to prostrate before her husband because of the enormity of his right on her. * [Sunan at-Tirmidhi]

“In the laws of these and previous Prophets, it was allowed for the people to prostrate before the men of authority, when they met them. This practice was allowed in the law of Adam until the law of `Isa, peace be upon them, but was later prohibited in our law. Islam made prostration exclusively for Allah Alone, the Exalted and Most Honored. The implication of this statement was collected from Qatadah and other scholars”.

Quran Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Yusuf welcomes His Parents - His Dream comes True

“Sayyidina 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas (ra) has said that this prostration of gratitude was for Allah Ta’ala, and not for Sayyidina Yusuf(as). Others have said that a Sajdah or Sujud (prostration) as part of 'Ibadah (worship) when done for anyone other than Allah has always been forbidden in the Shariah of every prophet. But, the Sajdah of Tazim (veneration) was permissible in the religious codes of past prophets - which has been prohibited in the Shariah of Islam on the basis that it is a source of Shirk.

This is confirmed by Hadith reports from Al-Bukhari and Muslim that Sajdah (prostration) for anyone other than Allah is not valid”.

@Sa1eem

Same is happening today. Allah has given some of his creations who are dear to him (Allah), status, value, authority, respect and powers that people under the influence of Iblees (Shaitan) reject, and just like ‘Iblees layeen’ they make excuses, and one of their excuses is shirk.

These people who are living under the influence of Shaitan are actually rejecters … as they reject that Allah has made some of his creations ‘waseela’ for others, who would be waseela for Allah’s creation till the judgment day or later.

Yet again in you in your ignorance are confusing between making someone or your deeds as Waseela to approach Allah Almighty and invoking someone for Dua.

Dua is only made to Allah Almighty and no one else – one can ask others to make dua for you – those who are living.

@Sa1eem

Actually, just like worse of kuffars, these people do not believe on ‘Ruh’ … they reject that Ruh never dies, death is only of ‘Nafs’, and that person is not ‘Nafs’ but person is ‘Ruh’ that lives even after leaving this world (after death of Nafs) … rather these Rejecters think that once a person died, the person is no more there (for Rejecters, humans are just Nafs as these people are slaves of ‘Nafs’ and do not believe such thing as ‘Ruh’ exists … so for them, Ruh = Nafs), hence these Rejecters make excuses that a person who has left this world is dead and thus could not do anything..

This mambo jambo of yours makes no sense. You are exposing your ignorance. Do you even read what you are writing?

You must fear Allah Almighty – don’t accuse others of what they don’t believe.

Be aware that a day will surely come when you will have to answer for your false accusations.

@Sa1eem

Note: No Muslim can do shirk (when it comes to worldly judgment) as all Muslim confesses La-e-la-ha illal-lah (there no God but Allah) and that confession takes a person completely out of shirk. But Rejecters could not understand that.

Just by uttering la ilaha illa Allah by tongue doesn’t stop a person for committing minor shirk. Go and check for yourself.

@Sa1eem

When Muslim call someone for help, they do that because they have no ‘Iblees like ego’, and know that Allah has created many who are better than them, whom Allah wants them to use as intermediaries (waseela), and through them Allah helps and gives. Thus, believers call anyone other than Allah with belief that it is only Allah who helps and gives, and if people they call ‘helps and gives’ than it is also because Allah delegated, authorised, entrusted or bestowed them with whatever they have in the form of status, value, authority, respect, or power.

You seem to suggest that Allah Almighty is not directly accessible. Are you? If you think He is than what stops you from directly supplicating to Him?

Can you call others to give you Hidayah? No, they can pray to Allah Almighty to give you Hidayah. You can do it yourself with full sincerity and using the waseela of your good deeds – this will surely please Allah Almighty.

Can you call others to give you Rizq? No, they can pray to Allah Almighty to give you Rizq. You can do it yourself with full sincerity and using the waseela of your good deeds – this will surely please Allah Almighty.

Can you call others to give you Good health? No, they can pray to Allah Almighty to give you Good health. You can do it yourself with full sincerity and using the waseela of your good deeds – this will surely please Allah Almighty.

Can you call others to give you wealth? No, they can pray to Allah Almighty to give you wealth. You can do it yourself with full sincerity and using the waseela of your good deeds – this will surely please Allah Almighty.

Allah Almighty is accessible to all. Put your trust in Allah Almighty.
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He is the Living (One): There is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere devotion. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds*! 40:65

• “When My servants ask you about Me [tell them], ‘Verily I am close [to them]; I listen to the prayer of everyone who calls on Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me in order that they may be guided aright.*’” (2:186)

@Sa1eem

[It is just like, one applies for a job in company, but application goes to personnel officer, manager, or someone who are authorised or entrusted by company to give employment. Normally, company owner do not give any jobs himself, and even when approached by applicant, he would direct them to relevant authorities he delegated for the job].

How wrong you are! Allah Almighty is very approachable, He Hears, He Responds

**He is As-Samad - The Satisfier of All Needs Al-Mujeeb - The Responsive) **

He is the Living (One): There is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere devotion. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds! 40:65

“When My servants ask you about Me [tell them], ‘Verily I am close [to them]; I listen to the prayer of everyone who calls on Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me in order that the may be guided aright.’” (2:186)

If the servant draws near to Me a hand span, I draw near to him an arm’s length; and if he draws near to Me an arm’s length, I draw near to him a fathom’s length. And if he comes to Me walking, I come to him running. Narrated by Al-Bukhari.

Allah (may He be Exalted and Glorified) says: If he (My servant) makes mention of Me within himself, I make mention of him within Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assembly better than it. And if he draws near to Me a hand span, I draw near to him an arm’s length; and if he draws near to Me an arm’s length, I draw near to him a fathom’s length. And if he comes to Me walking, I come to him running.** Narrated by Al-Bukhari 7405 Muslim 2675
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Numan bin Basheer (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates from the Prophet (peace be upon him)), “Dua’a is ibadat.” Then he read this ayat: And your Lord hath said: Pray unto Me and I will hear your prayer. Lo! those who scorn My service, they will enter hell, disgraced.** [40:60] . (Tirmizi, Abu Dawod, and Ibn-e-Majah)**

These two verses of the Blessed Quran and blessed ahadith above, Allah is saying that He directly listens to prayers of His slaves and He is closer to the slave than his own vein!

So why do we need anyone else to approach Allah Almighty, when we can go directly to Allah? If I have direct access to the OWNER of a company, why do I need to go through the secretary or any other person is position? I will talk to the owner of the company myself and maybe he will take me out for lunch.